The Bob Show

[miguel]

Very poor taste, Bob.

[Tad Eareckson]

Is it OK to say "Thanks" AND "I told ya so" in the same post?

[Tad Eareckson]

I have not lied, schemed, or been hypocritical.

You engage in so much lying, scheming, and hypocrisy that you have no firm grip on reality.

I am also neither particularly religious...

Not good enough.

This forum has zero tolerance for religion. Hang checks, safe standup spot landings, releases within easy reach, bent pin releases, standard aerotow weak links, and professional pilot (think Rooney) competence are all elements of hang gliding religion and they all crash and kill people at frequent intervals.

You got religion, leave it at the door and save it for celebrations of life - if that's what floats your boat.

...nor a "wack job".

Sure. Whatever you say.

So all of your name calling proves that you're the one who is incapable of rational discussions without resorting to profanity and other divisive and diversionary tactics.

I totally disagree with all of those points - motherfucker. Well... I'm actually totally cool with divisiveness.

Zack C - 2010/11/12 06:42:25 UTC

Your posts are destroying our club.

And I just divided your ass outta here.

With regard to my post, I was contacted by a member of the US Hawks forum who had concerns about your presence there given your past history as a child molester.

And I FULLY and HEARTILY support your handling of the situation.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=883
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?

Bob Kuczewski - 2012/03/14 15:15:03 UTC

There will be many problems that crop up as the US Hawks grows. I think it's important that we - as a community - work together to handle them in the best way that we can. There are lots of things to learn from Tad's case. I am not convinced that I did the best thing and I think it's good to talk about other alternatives. That's part of what will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA.

'Cause now US Hawks has ever more in the way of fairness, responsibility, accountability, and competency than USHPA...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1019
USHPA's New Secret Web Site?

Bob Kuczewski - 2012/05/04 19:46:26 UTC

To be honest (a little painfully honest) I've been disappointed with the participation in the US Hawks.

...and almost as much in the way of vitality as HGAA.

AND it's totally safe for people of varying ages.

That told me 2 things...

Damn, you're incisive.

I offer that as a warning to anyone who is following what you say on this forum without extreme scrutiny.

Totally with ya on that one dude.

Tad Eareckson - 2011/11/18 14:07:50 UTC

I don't really want anyone who DOESN'T doubt everything I say participating in this forum.

- Anyone who is following what I say on this forum - or anyone else - WITHOUT extreme scrutiny is wasting my time and his.

- I HAVE people following what I say on this forum with extreme scrutiny. They catch mistakes I've made and I fix them.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=802
AL's Second flight at Packsaddle how it went

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/10/23 16:29:29 UTC

As for Nobody's request for me to read a document, I haven't found the time yet. I'm sorry, but I don't have time to read everything that everyone asks me to read.

- Which is a helluva lot more than you ever did.

- You have stupid Rooney-following pigfuckers like Sam.

- The Jack and Davis Shows are absolutely OOZING with them.

- This is aviation - extreme scrutiny is the name of the game.

Now I didn't need to come to your forum to expose all of this, but when you imply that freedom of speech on the US Hawks is in jeopardy...

Freedom of speech on The Bob Show is doing GREAT. With Tad's ass gone people are free say whatever moronic crap they feel like with no fear of thought process based contradiction. But the problem is...

To be honest (a little painfully honest) I've been disappointed with the participation in the US Hawks.

...that they actually don't have much useful or interesting to say.

That's when I have to let the truth be known.

Well done!

Please let me know if you challenge any of the facts presented in this post.

I actually couldn't find much in the way of facts presented in that post - just the usual idiot opinions, half-truths, misrepresentations, distortions, and lies. And I'm not really interested in challenging them any more 'cause after you disregard everything I say twenty or thirty times it starts getting a bit old.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=982
Anti-Christian Williams

Al Hernandez - 2012/05/09 15:17:59 UTC

Christian Williams backstabber, crap talker, no diffrient than jim rooney and Davis, these guy do their battle on the OZ report or on Waco Jacko's Site... They know they have protection there they are not man enough to step into the danger zone.

So what did Christian do to make it onto the sleaziest dregs of humanity list? I can't tell myself because it seems that the Davis Show forum is, as of this morning, locking out all but registered users.

Bob Kuczewski - 2012/05/09 18:05:46 UTC

Yup.

By the way, speaking of banning, it looks like Tad wasn't able to honor freedom of speech on his KiteStrings forum.

Holy shit, Bob, I'm figuring that the only way you made it all the way through grade school with your reading comprehension skills and cognitive abilities was because all your teachers would've slashed their wrists rather than take a risk of seeing you in their classrooms one minute longer than absolutely necessary under the terms of their contracts.

Not that you'll hear this any better now than you did the previous five hundred times but, what the hell...

1. I am perfectly ABLE to honor the freedom of speech of any brain damaged Rooney caliber Davis, Jack, or Bob show pigfucker who wants to come along and spam and disrupt the forum with any crap he feels like posting but, as made abundantly clear in the mission statement, I choose not to and there will be a limit to what I will tolerate.

2. Freedom of speech has absolutely no place in aviation.

Lemme give you an example of what I'm talking about...

Towing Aloft - 1998/01

Speed controlled towing is when the speed of the device doing the towing is maintained at a reasonably constant value. Controls, such as throttle, are used to keep the speed of the tow vehicle or tow winch operating at a constant speed. Towline tension can vary dramatically in response to thermals, sink, pilot corrections, etc. Aerotowing is clearly in this category as the tug needs to maintain a minimum speed to prevent stalling. Many of the early towing efforts of the '70s where the vehicle drove at a fixed speed would also fall into this category. Weak links very clearly will provide protection from excessive angles of attack, high bank turns and the like for this form of towing.

1. I've got a magic wand.

2. My two choices are to allow that crap to be published or have the motherfuckers who wrote it shot.

3. I'm having the motherfuckers who wrote that crap shot because innocent people have died because of that paragraph and hundreds of others echoing it.

4. I am totally one hundred percent serious about this.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=821
Fatal hang gliding accident

Sam Kellner - 2011/11/07 02:47:58 UTC

Preflight, Hangcheck, Know you're hooked in.

5. Ditto for your little Bob Show pigfucker buddy.

He just banned me for making a few fairly short but targeted posts.

1. No Bob, I didn't JUST ban you. I banned you over two days prior to your noticing.

2. That tells me just how much regard you had for the dialog you initiated.

3. I banned you because you exercised your civic duty to remind the public that Tad was an unrepentant, dangerous, pathological sexual predator whose mere shadow was to be avoided at all costs a few times too often.

4. I banned you because you were spamming the forum with the same message over and over and over.

5. I banned you after giving you a very clear warning to stop which you either chose to ignore or were incapable of comprehending.

6. I'm guessing that it was the case that you were incapable of comprehending it 'cause that fits into your pattern of behavior like a piece of a jigsaw puzzle intended for ages three to five.

I was offering examples of Tad's inability to admit his mistakes, and that drove him over the edge.

1. Yeah Bob. Maybe one of those examples should've been something other than the stuck record groove a few of us have tired of hearing.

2. You drove me over the edge about a year ago. I'm now feeling a bit of optimism about my prospects of climbing back to it.

Tad makes a lot of very good points on his forum, and I support many of his conclusions related to hang gliding.

Maybe it would've been a good idea to stick to those issues and stay the hell out of irrelevant deeply personal ones.

But his own ego (or defense of his own ego) leads him into corners where he can't escape or back down ... even when he's clearly wrong.

I one hundred percent guarantee you that there are a lot of other people who don't see everything as clearly as you do.

For Tad, I think it's more about the argument than arriving at the truth.

I'm not following you here Bob. If I were really interested in arguing I'd be ENCOURAGING deranged people to join Kite Strings and participate - not warning them away in the mission statement and banning them.

But for all of his shortcomings, he's always taken my phone calls, and we've generally had civil conversations.

There's one issue we won't be discussing on the phone any more, Bob. You've misrepresented, distorted, and invented things I've said and there's no record for people to verify what actually happened.

I can't say that about a lot of other people in the sport of hang gliding.

Thanks, but I don't get all giddy about being compared favorably to a religious cult composed primarily of halfwitted serial killers.

P.S. If you had launched anything remotely resembling the kind of attack and invasion into strictly personal and totally irrelevant matters that you did with me on anybody else on this forum I'd have deleted the post and banned you in the time it took to hit the right keys and buttons.

[miguel]

I am having a hard time understanding why posts must be kept forever. It is your board. If you do not like something, delete it and all followup.

As an example, I could post some offensive porn. Are you going to keep it on the board for all to appreciate forever? I would hope you would delete it and make sure I did not do it again.

There are no brownie points and no honor in keeping off topic or offensive posts on the board.

Do your job as the administrator.

[Tad Eareckson]

- Jon Orders didn't go viral 'cause he launched without checking to see if his passenger was connected to the glider. Jon Orders went viral 'cause he attempted to delete a digital record of him launching without checking to see if his passenger was connected to the glider.

- I hope that you understand that about half past December Bob was threatening me with blackmail in an effort to silence me while falsely maintaining the appearance that the stated principles of his organization had any validity to them. The only survivable defense strategy is to do an immediate full disclosure. That's what I did, it worked, and Bob's game plan blew up in his face - as I really hoped it would.

- If I delete something it looks like I'm afraid of it, that there's something I need to hide. I'd have MUCH preferred that this issue be left in a distant and very painful past where it belonged but Bob elected to shake that genie out of the bottle.

- If you posted offensive porn, Viagra ads, endless bible passages, or endless statements that you know what you're talking about ten times better than I do 'cause you have ten times as much airtime as I do the posts you'd be gone 'cause I don't countenance spam and I limit disruption.

- Bob's posts are staying 'cause they damage him and help me.

- They help me because people can SEE that I can delete them and don't.

(Pssst... Got any inoffensive porn? (PM me.))

[miguel]

Color me slow, but I finally figured out what is going on.

[Tad Eareckson]

Does that mean you understand why I'm handling this issue the way I am, that it's the ONLY way it can be handled?

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=982
Anti-Christian Williams

Bob Kuczewski - 2012/05/09 18:05:46 UTC

By the way, speaking of banning, it looks like Tad wasn't able to honor freedom of speech on his KiteStrings forum. He just banned me for making a few fairly short but targeted posts.

When Bob writes that I just banned him "for making a few fairly short but targeted posts" there's a record of those few fairly short but targeted posts.

And I don't think your average reader will put much stock in Bob's:
- characterization of the reason he was banned
- overall credibility

If I:
- delete the posts his credibility goes up and mine goes down
- leave them the opposite happens - as it should

[miguel]

I now understand the why. I do think you did an information overload though. A casual reading through the threads paints quite an ugly picture.

[Tad Eareckson]

It depends upon who's painting the picture.

Bob's got himself a four inch housepainting brush and a five gallon bucket of flat black paint. It's the only color he knows - regardless of what he sees in front of him.

Gray is a totally alien concept.

And white exists only according to some bogus theory in some totally irrelevant and critically warped parallel universe.

(Probably a serious genetic defect.)

There's no such thing as a standard aerotow weak link from the absolute bottom end of the scale that's appropriate for all gliders. Sometimes ya gotta do a little math - all by yourself if necessary. That's what I've had to do in several walks of life.

And Kite Strings is NOT intended for casual readers and they are not welcomed here. Bob is a chronic and pathologically casual reader and that's the primary reason I banned him.

Zack C - 2010/11/23 05:23:34 UTC

My attempts to carry out a rational discussion with him were continually sabotaged and eventually aborted by other group members, many with little interest in or comprehension of the discussion.

I wished to continue the discussion, and I knew others in the group were interested in it as well. But Tad had been banned from every group he entered to date, so we needed a place of our own where knowledge was prized over personality. And thus the idea for Kite Strings was born.

The purpose of Kite Strings is to foster serious discussion regarding the practices and technologies of modern hang gliding. This is a forum ruled by science, truth, facts, reason, and logic. Anyone with a respect for these principles and a willingness to learn and engage in rational discussion is welcome to participate.

The forum is still in its infancy, so we don't have much in the way of structure or posting rules. Until we're large enough to have a need for more, all topics will be under a single forum. As for rules, just keep it civil, stay on topic, keep topics in line with the forum purpose, and don't lie or misrepresent others' statements.

And I'll ban any other participant who disrupts the forum by lying, misrepresent others' statements, and/or responding to posts he's only read casually - regardless of the topic.