http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=33546
USHPA raises rates 50%!!!
Mark G. Forbes - 2015/10/30 02:24:54 UTC
It is our hope that once we get the RRG launched, we'll be able to get a better handle on our insurance costs.
Which is another way of saying get a better handle on this safety thing - which you've massively demonstrated beyond any shadow of a doubt you're totally incapable of doing.
Right now we're forced to price things based on our recent past history, which sucks.
Fuck your recent past history. All you've had going on recently was a random spike in fatalities. The cultural behavior didn't suddenly shift for the worse at the beginning of 2015, it's just that a handful of the usual zillions of near misses didn't quite miss.
We think...
Yeah, right.
...the long term average is more realistic, but we have to prove that with actual numbers over time.
It's the moronic insane stuff that you normalize as "typical" under the u$hPa shield that sends the risk through the ceiling - whether or not you're seeing relevant fatalities.
If we're right...
How could you be anything BUT. You've been busting your asses for decades making as sure as possible you've been getting as much right as possible.
...our RRG will accumulate surplus funds and we'll be able to drop insurance costs over time as we develop more history.
I can hardly wait for you motherfuckers to develop more history.
That will come back to USHPA and the schools in the form of lower insurance premiums, and back to the members in the form of lower dues rates.
Unless I can get Arys Moorhead's family to understand what happened and why - and do to you a wee bit of what the criminal justice system SHOULD've done to you.
There's no guarantee, and it's up to each of us as pilots to make it happen.
And you've cultivated such quality material to fill your ranks - mostly by setting the best examples at the leadership level.
If we see somebody about to do something stupid, risky or damaging, we need to speak up.
- Sorry, my voice got shot to hell years ago.
- Right. You motherfuckers don't tolerate anybody speaking up about anybody doing something stupid, risky, damaging, fatal AFTER they've done it but now everybody's gonna start speaking up BEFORE.
- Quote yourself EVER ONCE speaking up about somebody about to do, doing, having done something stupid, risky, or damaging.
It's OUR money they're putting at risk.
Nevertheless, it's their friends, families, loved ones and their feelings that we're most deeply concerned about.
The guy who says "I think I can pull it off" when everybody else has their glider in the bag and it's blowing 35 on launch? That guy needs to get pulled off to the side and talked to. Maybe he's a sky god, but that doesn't matter. He's taking an unreasonable chance with YOUR dues money, and you need to call him on it.
Who is that guy? Have we read about him in a u$hPa crash report or seen him in a video?
Buzzing launch, acro down low over the LZ, top landing into a crowd, overshooting the LZ into a soccer game....all things our pilots have done, deliberately or due to lack of skill.
Nobody UNDERshooting the LZ and coming down in a soccer game? Maybe you dickheads should give a second thought as to the wisdom of teaching people to land on old Frisbees set in the middles of LZs and runways.
We need to change the culture; that sort of flying should not be tolerated by any of us.
We best do that by beheading the people who've been in charge of and controlling the culture for the past couple decades.
If we get a handle on this thing, we'll save ourselves money and keep the sport alive and healthy.
KEEP it alive and healthy? It's a lung cancer case that's been doing a pack a day for decades and has been doing two packs for the past half dozen years.
If we don't, we're done.
You're done. You've put yourself into a dive that nothing will be able pull you out of. Even if I WANTED to help you I wouldn't be able to do shit.
You gotta keep reprinting the seventeen year old excellent article by Mike Meier, "Why Can't We Get a Handle On This Safety Thing?" 'cause that's all you've got. And apparently it doesn't bother you in the least that it's never had the least perceptible effect on anybody's flying and practices.
And lemme point out that somebody who actually gives a flying fuck about safety doesn't write one totally useless article seventeen years ago and then never whisper a word in response to any of the hundreds of major catastrophes we've had since. I've currently got 1448 posts with 54224 hits here just on the weak link issue in order to make the point that:
Tost Flugzeuggerätebau
Weak links protect your aircraft against overloading.
and can count the people who've altered their behavior accordingly on one hand.
When we start seeing instructors and ratings officials teaching different theory, skills, practices, mindsets and different equipment being put into the air we'll start seeing different results on measurable scales. But go ahead, Mark...
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=32681
Tandem crash in LV (speculation thread)
Mark G. Forbes - 2015/03/30 23:29:59 UTC
News reports are of little use since they're written by people who have no idea how our sport works or what is typical.
Keep on getting people to understand how our sport works and what is TYPICAL - while never doing shit about instruction and equipment.