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http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43612
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Davis Straub - 2015/08/12 20:59:22 UTC

Towed up by Tiki on the third day. I felt that she was flying too slow and therefore I was flying too slow. To get her to speed up I should have pulled in and gotten below her to signal to her to speed up.

We hit some funky air, the line bellied, and for the first time ever I snapped a 200 pound weak link.

I went up again this time behind Jonny in a 914.
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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?mode=unignore&t=33279&ignoree_id=3700
More thoughtys pn old subject, Helmets.
Steve Forslund - 2015/08/16 05:41:33 UTC

Didn't you need this new technology before your accident from what you tell us sounds like you really should not be hang gliding anyway even if you could find a better helmet. Are all these posts about helmets and people coming out flying your predator doing you any good? It seems like it would be better to move on and spend your energy on things they can bring you joy and happiness have you been able to go out and fly sailplanes lately just curious
Typical, comical, Jack Asshole forum quality from a miserable Sam Kellner caliber sack of shit. :lol: :lol:

PS Great job there Steve! I fuckin' love it when you idiots go out of your way in order to help make that shithead asylum worse than I'd imagined was possible.
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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=33332
"Flying is an INHERENTLY DANGEROUS activity"??
Marcos70 - 2015/08/29 04:07:13 UTC

We fly In an invisible media. Even if you analyze the air correctly, we must also avoid simple errors such as not hooking in that can happen while anxious with impending launch. It all requires confidence, focus and discipline. It is Inheritly Dangerous as much as we like to compare it to driving a car or scuba diving. It's far more dangerous....embrace it!
Just about when I start thinking that the Jack Asshole forum idiots can't get any dumber'er, along comes another gem.
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Fer sure, but...

The lead-off post in that thread:

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=33332
"Flying is an INHERENTLY DANGEROUS activity"??
rkswb - 2015/08/29 00:36:58 UTC
"Hang gliding and paragliding are INHERENTLY DANGEROUS activities."
- First or second page of every USHPA magazine.

The USHPA Safety Notice that was e-mailed to everyone today elaborated upon this:
Flying a hang glider or paraglider is not a safe activity. Debating which type of ultralight is safer misses the point - neither are inherently safe. Active risk management can improve the chances of not being hurt, but can never make flying safe.
If this is true, can anyone explain why? I'm confused for two reasons.
  • - Flying a HG doesn't seem to be more dangerous than driving a car to me.

    - HGs are *significantly* more safe than PGs in my opinion, and it is relevant regarding fatalities. HGs don't get blown back into power lines, and a little turbulence won't cause a collapse close to the ground. HGs have control over flying decisions, conditions, and equipment... and DO seem safe if everything is done correctly. PGs have fatalities via collapses near terrain even if everything is done "right."
I get that USHPA is sending out a very important message regarding pilot safety and risk management, but reinforcing that free flight isn't and will never be a safe sport seems counterproductive.

It seems much more worthwhile to note that free flight *can* be safe when everything is done right (for HGs at least). To say that flying is inherently dangerous could be interpreted to mean that your safety isn't entirely in your hands. I feel like the message should be that your safety, for the most part, *is* in your hands and that's why you should remain vigilant.

Not making an argument, per se, as I'm mainly just trying to figure out what I'm not understanding here.
which was the only one that had appeared when I'd last checked, had given me a glimmer of hope and I'd been thinking of doing something with it.

Marcos and several other respondents I'm really hoping to be able to use as data points in the not too distant future. And the way things have been going lately...
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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=33316
How has USHPA been failing hang gliding?
Davis Straub - 2015/08/31 02:11:58 UTC

Who is Frank Colver?
I'm delighted to see that you're advertising that you're too stupid and/or lazy to do a Google search, Davis.
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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2095
Should we try a different way? Designwise....
Steve Corbin - 2015/09/02 22:26:04 UTC

Any un-biased observer should be able to see why wanna-be pilots find PG more attractive than HG. Standing around in the Andy Jackson Memorial International Airpark at a busy fly-in shows that a PG landing is a total non-event, while everyone stands up to watch HG's, piloted by "experts", come in to land. A good landing by a HG is greeted by cheers, an acknowledgement that landing one successfully is a demonstration not just of skill, but good luck as well.
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Post that on Jack Asshole's idiot asylum, and see what happens, Steve.
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At:
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=12682
Landing on your feet (for AEROTOW)- So Dangerous
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http://www.flytandem.com/accident/index.htm
4-11-15 6PM. Local Intermediate HG pilot is landing in moderate 5-10 mph winds and does an aggressive flare that is a bit early (still too much airspeed to initiate the flare). The glider pops up and drops a wing which results in a moderate whack. Although the impact was not very hard as whacks go, the pilot suffered a dislocated shoulder. Prognosis is good for full recovery in a few weeks.
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http://OzReport.com/14.129
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Shane Nestle - 2010/06/26

Being that John was still very new to flying in the prone position, I believe that he was likely not shifting his weight, but simply turning his body in the direction he wanted to turn.
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