http://www.shga.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=5053
Writing Analysis of BobK 12/13 - 12/26 [infotainment]
Barton - 2015/12/29 04:45:48 UTC
Robert, just not interested into listening to your perception of the moments make our history.
Was that supposed to be a sentence of some kind?
The organization is trying to save itself n all you want to do is stop the collective effort of like minded individuals.
Perish the thought that anyone should ever try to stop the collective effort of like minded individuals. The track records of 130 pound Greenspot standard aerotow weak links and bent pin releases would NEVER get as long as they do otherwise.
Wish you joy in your endeavors wherever you go. My apologies to the peanut gallery for feeding the beast.
Did the peanut gallery - the Greblovillains too stupid to figure out how not to read stuff in which they have no interest - ASK for your apologies?
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/12/29 05:09:03 UTC
Translation: You're not willing or able to admit that your accusations were false or own up to the damage they have caused.
With regard to the "collective effort", I see a desperate attempt to get USHPA members to "DONATE" to an RRG that will be "OWNED" by the entities that profit from our sports.
The "collective effort" you mentioned looks more like lemmings being led to the cliff - unhooked.
Well, at least they won't be vulnerable to any of the dangers or the turbulent jet streams they'd have encountered lifting their gliders into the turbulent jet stream.
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/12/29 05:12:26 UTC
OP, thanks for removing your post.
As I mentioned, I'm sure it was intended in good humor, and there's no harm and no foul.
Yes Bob, OP is a very witty, funny, and good natured fellow whom we are privileged to have in our community. And under no circumstances should anyone ever even THINK of driving a stake through his heart.
Thanks for participating in the discussions.
Ain't it just great that you have OP participating in these discussions!
Barton - 2015/12/29 12:20:01 UTC
BobK(razy) you sir, are just a simple bully. Much like that fat boy known as trump.
Yeah. So post us some links to the threads in which you've taken stands against the other bullies in this sport.
Bullies never win, which makes you a LOSER in so many ways.
Bullies have been winning in hang gliding for decades.
Never put words in my mouth fathead!
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/12/29 15:19:27 UTC
Translation: Barton is so angry about being caught making false accusations that he resorts to childish name calling.
Barton, a more mature response might look like this:
Gee Bob, I could have sworn that was you, but I called Joe Spinney as you suggested and he confirmed that he had flown past Bathtub Rock but you had turned back. I'm really sorry for calling you a liar. I'm also sorry for holding that against you for the past 5 years and for making false statements behind your back for all that time.
Barton, when you admit your mistakes and apologize, they fade into history. But when you double down on your mistakes, they come back again and again.
Marshall Robin - 2015/12/29 16:15:34 UTC
Marshall Robin - California - 67441 - H3 - 2012/08/25 - Joe Greblo - FL TUR
Bob, if you're going to escalate and make a veiled legal threat to OP, I think it's time I escalate and mention that all this shit belongs in Politics and Off Topic, and you should stop posting it in this one.
What was he thinking responding in a thread titled:
Writing Analysis of BobK 12/13 - 12/26 [infotainment]
You are violating the rules...
Quote them, motherfucker.
...and we've been very tolerant of it...
Yes,
WE've been very tolerant of it.
- 005 - non Bob participants in this thread so far: Orion Price, Jim Thompson, Barton, Jonathan, Marshall Robin
- 508 - registered Greblovillians
Marshall knows what all 502 others feel about this issue and how very tolerant they're being. Suck my dick, Marshall.
...but I think we've all had enough of your efforts to bring up your crusade in every thread that has the vaguest relevance to it.
Then we should probably stop reading Bob's posts in all of these threads, shouldn't we - dickhead?
Rob Burgis - 2015/12/29 18:00:47 UTC
Bob,
I have to agree with Marshal.
Then you should probably start by spelling his name correctly.
Please continue this discussion on the politics/off topic section.
Why? "Writing Analysis of BobK 12/13 - 12/26 [infotainment]" wasn't started on the politics/off topic section.
Your "sparing partners" will gladly follow, as will the morbidly curious. Those not interested might just get a break.
And it will make it even easier for you Grebloville dickheads to not read.
Thank you in advance and Merry Christmas!
And thank YOU and suck my dick, Rob.
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/12/29 19:33:57 UTC
Rob and Marshal,
I agree. I started one topic in October and there has been a proliferation of other topics since then. Some of those other topics (including this one) appear to be diversionary in nature and probably should go to "Politics". I think the original October topic and Ken's more recent topic are both worthy of the General forum since they are highly important and will affect almost every member.
And are plastered all over the front pages of all other US glider forums with detectable pulses.
With regard to OP's comment and my request to remove it, I give him high praise for recognizing that his comment could be misinterpreted and removing it quickly.
Yeah, he's a really great guy, ain't he, Bob? I so do wish I could think of doing something that would win such high praises from you.
We're all hang glider pilot's here...
1. Sure we are.
2. The plural of "pilot" ain't "pilot's".
...and that brings with it a high degree of self confidence and spirit.
Must be 'cause he's got BOTH testicles intact.
I think this topic reflects that, and sometimes that spirit can take us a bit further than intended. I think OP recognized that, and was very quick to fix it. Again, high praise for that.
With regard to this particular topic (infotainment analysis of bobk's writing), I recognize that I'm fair game for all comers. I stepped into the political arena to fix a problem that I witnessed at Torrey and I knew I would get some resistance. I feel my arguments are on solid ground and I can answer the mail from all challengers.
'Cept, of course, from T** at K*** S******. I was trying very hard to answer his mail but then found out he was an unrepentant child molester and was forced to ban him to make The Bob Show a safe place for people of varying ages to visit.
I appreciate that the Sylmar leadership hasn't silenced my voice as they have at Crestline.
No. First they're telling us how everybody feels about your posts and how tolerant they're all being.
The decisions before us are important for the future of free flight, and exploring all the possibilities is messy business. Thanks for tolerating it.
And thank YOU, Bob, for being as tolerant of me for as long as you did. It was a real honor being tolerated by an individual as totally fabulous as you are for as long as I was.
Marshall Robin - 2015/12/29 19:46:03 UTC
My main objection was that a thread calling for donating to the RRG was hijacked by you to DETER people from doing so.
Oh My God! Somebody on a hang gliding forum expressing an opposing viewpoint! What's this world coming too.
You're free to debate the merits... in Politics and Off Topic. That thread is not the place for it.
Get fucked, slimy little Grebloville shit.
Robb Derringer (r8pistol) - 2015/12/29 19:47:54 UTC
I'm laughing so hard right now at all of this.
Leave it to our dearly beloved and sorely missed Ope to suddenly pop up and give this shrill, shrieking troll a good rogering. For some unknown reason, after all the bullshit and drama this dude has brought upon himself, he thinks people are actually going to consider his opinions.
So what is it you Grebloville shits are worried about with respect to Bob's posts? He's recommending that you pool your club contributions before handing them over to u$hPa. Nobody's gonna consider the opinions of that shrill, shrieking troll whom OP has just given a good rogering. How can posts nobody's even reading be so damaging that you need to be talking about flushing them down into your Basement and banning their author?
It was mildly fun for about 5 minutes, but lately has started to infect our normally positive and productive forum with an energy that I for one do not abide.
Well then you for one should certainly not abide it. And perish the thought that such a normally positive and productive forum such as yours should be infected with such an energy. If that happens what will happen to all the other clubs looking for inspiration on selecting the best safety mascots? And we all know what can and will happen to pilots in clubs with mediocre safety mascots.
Why he feels the need to keep clogging up our forum with the same tedious diatribe, that nobody agrees with, is beyond me.
Not one single Greblovillain. So how come you feel the need to put so much energy into this post?
I've seen the reality of the collective position explained to him time and time again to no avail, and it's just silly to allow this voice of negativity and delusion to run unchecked for the sake of a "discussion" that nobody agrees with.
Yes, r8. The point that nobody agrees with anything Bob writes cannot be repeated enough. So for the love o' god keep repeating it as much as your time and energy allow.
Therefore I would like to raise the suggestion of a forum ban.
Cool. And since nobody agrees with anything Bob has to say we certainly don't need to bother with a vote or anything. We'll just record the decision as unanimous.
I know he's been banned from other forums for the very same issues...
So you haven't actually read the any of the discussions preceding the banning. You just "KNOW" he's been banned from other forums for the very same issues - all, of course, after unanimous votes by all registered members.
...and I don't see any possible positive contributions from his attempts at further "discussion" on our forum.
Thank you OP for wielding your sorely missed and unique genius in exposing the ridiculousness of this guys exhaustive rants. Flesch-kincaid grade level 7.9, lol....
My only other question is to why dhmertans has not weighed in yet.
Are you sure you HAVE a dhmertans registered over there?
Robb Derringer - California - 92000 - H4 - 2015/03/03 - Joe Greblo - FL AWCL CL FSL RLF TUR
This is why I feel very little, if anything, whenever I hear about the next glider asshole buying the farm. He either WAS this kind of total piece 'o shit or tolerating them.
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/12/29 20:44:27 UTC
The question of how USHPA leadership lost the insurance plan that the members had been funding for decades is worthy of discussion.
The question of whether Sylmar pilots should be "donating" while others are "investing" is worthy of discussion.
The question of whether SHGA should be forming their own insurance pool or participating as an owner is worthy of discussion.
The possibility of freeing your site from insurance requirements through the recreational use statutes is worthy of discussion.
Yet there's a group that wants to silence that discussion. They want Sylmar pilots to blindly follow without even seeing a discussion that might expose alternatives.
People like that are not new and they always try to shout others down with personal attacks and diversionary tactics because their own arguments are so weak. Don't let them do it.
Good points, Bob. I have no doubt whatsoever that all the really decent Greblovillains will soon be speaking out in support of giving those with alternate perspectives fair hearings.
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/12/29 21:00:56 UTC
Marshall Robin - 2015/12/29 19:46:03 UTC
My main objection was that a thread calling for donating to the RRG was hijacked by you to DETER people from doing so.
You're free to debate the merits... in Politics and Off Topic. That thread is not the place for it.
On the US Hawks forum we have a special section called the "Blog Forum". People who start topics in the Blog Forum are considered "owners" of their topic and can set whatever rules they want to exclude other's views. It's worked well for us and might be worthy of consideration here.
Well fuck, Bob. You never really needed to go to all that trouble. Long before you established the "Blog Forum" one of your sleazy pigfucker chapter presidents could just ask you to remove all the posts of anybody he felt like designating and flush them down into your Basement.
However, in the main forum we allow all sides of a topic to be discussed - as they should be.
Unless it's the side of an unrepentant child molester. Let's not go totally nuts with this free exchange of ideas thing.
Of course the "throw money at USHPA" crowd wants to only present one side of the story. But that does a disservice to the members - however few - who might want to hear alternatives.
This is how totalitarianism begins.
And if ANYONE should know how totalitarianism begins...
Orion Price - 2015/12/29 22:17:33 UTC
You guys don't get it.
Yeah, they're all fuckin' clueless. Good thing they have someone of your caliber to explain things to them, ain't it, OP?
He wont stop until he is booted from our forum. That's his modus operandi. hanggliding.org BANNED ozreport.com BANNED torrey pines BANNED ushpa BANNED.
1. Must be 'cause of all that bullying he does, huh OP?
2. Motherfucker's been BANNED from here too, OP. Doesn't that make T** at K*** S****** pretty mainstream?
He just keeps going. It's my job to exercise him until him and his subnet mask are BANNED from shga.com.
1. And you do your job - helping your fellow glider shits to crush the expressions of First Amendment freedoms where and when ever they rear their ugly heads - so very well, OP.
2. By what mechanism, OP? A majority vote by members as prescribed in the bylaws? Or just one individual with control of the buttons with zero procedure involving the membership - the way Davis, Jack, Emperor Bob do?
Personally I find the physiology fascinating. A bizarre failure mode in the psyche of a trouble man.
1. Never learned to handle grade school level English very well, did ya?
2. Wow. That sounds so very much like what you were saying about Yours Truly not that long ago...
http://www.shga.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3840
[TIL] About Tad Eareckson
Orion Price - 2013/03/11 15:12:28 UTC
His situation reminds me of a tragedy of a family friend. As began to loose his edge, he proportionality wanted to write people weirder and weirder letters. Newspaper editors, distant relatives, and especially the government would receive long rants pointing out his intelligence and schadenfreuding over their failures. Eventually his internet usage had to be monitored, and his snail-mail letters "mailed" by someone else. The failure mode exhibited here is nearly identical.
...while Bob was ever so characteristically letting you totally get away with it.
Tad Ericson...
I guess if you have a five letter, one syllable last name that's the same as a common English word you'd tend to find accuracy in spelling nine letter, three syllable names a bit challenging. Good job on my first name, though. You totally nailed it.
...went down the same route.
How very interesting that...
Mike Blankenhorn - 2013/03/12 16:07:44 UTC
We should bury this thread and not give Tad the satisfaction that we are actually wasting our time acknowledging his existence. Yes, this needed to be brought into the light but now we should bury this asshole with some nice cold dirt (metaphorically) and never speak of him again.
...the better part of three years later you guys STILL find it necessary to make references to T** at K*** S******. Pretty good for a senile old lunatic.
Who knows, one day i might shit the bed and spiral into madness.
No, OP. You'd hafta start with some measurable substance to start sinking anywhere.
A public meltdown displayed on hang gliding community internet forums. My concern with Bob is if he goes full Tad on us.
No danger of that whatsoever, is there Bob?
Sadly Tad lost his balls in the same circumstances. Literally, he had his testicles surgically removed. I'm not joking.
No. You're lying. Shortly after my second and last stint with Kitty Hawk in '82 a very malignant tumor developed in my right lower abdomen. That got dealt with by a brutal chemo regimen followed by eleven and a half hours worth of surgery on my thirtieth birthday - forever after which I was unable to imagine the physical endurance I'd had before. By March of '87 my right testicle had taken off to what felt like baseball size and I was ever so happy to see it go.
And guess what, OP... Not a single one of us is immortal. And some day - hopefully soon - something's gonna either get crushed or start misfiring in your body. And guess how I'm gonna be feeling about that if I'm lucky enough to still be around.
He was speed dialing his 'lawyers' over this:
Orion Price - 2015/12/29 03:34:58 UTC
Bob Kuczewski wrote:Hitler did nothing wrong.
But ya took it down, didn't ya? What? No balls?
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/12/30 00:43:41 UTC
OP, I have treated you with the respect that I would give to a fellow pilot sincerely seeking solutions in cases where we might disagree.
1. Of course you have, Bob. After all, he's not an unrepentant child molester, is he? Despite the username for which he opted for posting videos on YouTube. Me? I treated this total piece o' shit with the total contempt he deserves the instant I saw his true colors.
2. Oh. So if somebody flies something he's automatically entitled to a degree of respect you wouldn't have for somebody who DOESN'T fly anything. Get fucked, Bob.
From your confession listed here...
You really oughta look up the definition of the word "confession" sometime, Bob. That might help you a bit with the degree to which you misrepresent others' statements.
...it appears you've not been deserving of my effort.
No shit.
The miraculous sport of hang gliding is at what might be it's...
You use way too many apostrophes in your posts, Bob.
...most perilous moment...
Hang gliding's most perilous "moment" came and went in the early Eighties when Donnell Hewett published his lunatic crap about safe towing criteria and there wasn't enough collective intelligence in the sport to debunk it for what it was - and is.
...and you appear to be playing games rather than having a serious discussion.
Duh.
Thanks for that insight into your own value system.
And for what it's worth, your fascination with Tad's body parts seems a bit ... obsessive.
1. Really, Bob? Just a bit over four years ago I was thinking your fascination with a very private relationship of Tad's from a quarter century earlier seemed a bit ... obsessive.
2. Is that all ya got to say to this motherfucker on this issue?
Orion Price - 2015/12/30 02:06:24 UTC
Bob this is a serious thread, for serious arguments about the future of our sport. Please treat it as such.
Yeah. That's why it's titled:
Writing Analysis of BobK 12/13 - 12/26 [infotainment]
That helps the reader identify it as a serious thread for serious arguments about the future of our sport - and fabrications about Tad and his body parts.
I just find it funny the biggest dick out there doesn't have any balls. Why is he on the internet telling people this?
1. Yeah, OP. This is MOST ASSUREDLY a serious thread, for serious arguments about the future of our sport.
2. I dunno...
http://www.shga.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3840
[TIL] About Tad Eareckson
Mike Blankenhorn - 2013/03/12 03:57:34 UTC
Suicide is highly under rated, Tad should try it, but no wait he's lost his balls!
Why are you cowardly inbred Grebloville total pieces o' shit bringing up issues like this?
I hope it's something more substantial than worrying about hurting the feelings of Chester the molester.
