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No flight plan for not going up.
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Done sumpin' in a similar category. Wasn't nearly as flagrantly stupid as that one but I left the mountainside on a stretcher and the Comet ended up needing a bit o' work to make it airworthy again.
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I've scared myself a few times when my poor judgement left me no alternative but to clear an obstacle, and then had sink or laminar air shrink my clearance.
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Yeah, for all the hype risk gets as one of the factors that enhances our enjoyment of the sport it never seems to quite measure up to its billing when we're actually experiencing it.
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Tad Eareckson wrote:More of a failure to fly incident than anything else.
Nonsense. It was an invisible dust devil that got him.
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I had to push out hard to avoid a tree once & spent some time at a local pub thinking it over before going home.

Was it turning into the hill, flying too slowly or cross-controlling?...Nope.

I was playing with my new vario instead of looking where I was going. :shock: :oops:
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Not paying attention to my surroundings almost bit me. Conditions were light on the North side of Elk Mt. I followed the ridge to the west down as I was sinking out. I caught a thermal just before needing to bail for the landing area (which is on the south side) and took it back to the top. After repeating this 6 or 7 times I became over confident in the thermal being there. And then when it wasn't I spent a little too long looking and waiting for it. When I finally looked towards the landing area, I was looking up at the tops of the trees I had to clear. With luck I found some buoyant air to work as I drifted and cleared the trees. Reminds me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzqbqDW9z6E
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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=32731
tree landing
Tom Galvin - 2015/04/10 17:39:21 UTC

A friend of mine...
Fuck him.
...had an accidental chute deployment and landed in the trees unhurt. Then he then got out of his harness, fell to the ground, and hurt himself badly. He never flew again.
We've had at least a couple people around here - Brian Vant-Hull being one of them - who were fine after parking it but were seriously fucked up as sole consequences of separating from the glider - Brian after bringing his trusty hook knife into play. (Increased the safety of the free flight operation by giving him the option to break his neck.)

They weren't glider related accidents. They were tree climbing failures.

I overshot an alleged landing zone on one of my first mountain flights (High Top, Blue Ridge, Virginia - 1982/06/26) entirely due to the incompetence of Mark Airey - my asshole clinic supervisor - and parked a few feet off the ground in the treeline. Unclipped, dropped down, took a few steps out before my ankles were tied together by the vines. Fell forward and smashed my right knee on a pyramid shaped rock concealed by the undergrowth. Grounded me for nine days and hurt for years.
In many cases you are safer staying attached to the glider. If you don't fly with rope, your chute can be used to tie the glider to the tree.
Yeah Tom, great advice for people who fly over forested areas too stupid to fly with enough line to tie themselves off if necessary. Have them tie themselves off with their thousand dollar parachutes. Parachutes are also nice to have for the kinds of total fucking assholes who won't do hook-in checks because of the false sense of security they give.

Asshole.
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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=32875
Signs of Intermediate Syndrome
CAL - 2015/05/15 20:41:09 UTC
Ogden

Hang gliding will cure itself of over confidence, just when I get feeling good about landings, some bad ones have crept in, now I am under confident, I will get over it and work out the details and when I do I will get better at landing and get confident, then I will get cocky about how well I am doing (over confident) and that's when the trouble will creep in again, it is just the cycle all of us go through, right now I am pretty dang humble. it comes at all levels no one is cured of it
Keep working on perfecting that flare timing, CAL. Never give up on your childhood dream of being able to nail spot no-steppers on the old Frisbee in the middle of the LZ.
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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=32971
Tandem face plant
Hoosier_Eagle - 2015/06/05 04:30:49 UTC

Does anyone recognize the location?
Somebody will.
It only appeared on YouTube tonight. I post it here because to me, it seemed kinda reckless (weak flair, no wheels, etc)...
1. Week flare.
2. Show me a video of a tandem landing with a proper flare.
3. Wheels are for girls.
4. How many more et ceteras do ya need?
5. Great practice for landing a tandem in a narrow dry riverbed with large rocks strewn all over the place though.
...and I would certainly hate to see it happen with another student.
How 'bout THIS:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8819/18267685796_64156e9c91_o.png
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happening to another "student"? I don't recall having seen any comments from you on that one.
Thoughts?
On The Jack Show? Image
I am just glad that both the student and pilot in command...
1. How do you know:
- the student wasn't the Pilot "In Command"?
- there was a student under that wing?

2. In the nineteen seconds we saw of the flight how much different would it have looked if the people had been replaced by an equivalent weight of sacks of concrete?
...were lucky enough to walk away with intact necks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21V1QCVsJW0
NMERider - 2015/06/05 04:57 UTC

Broke the keel! Image Image Looks like a botched moon-walk landing where somebody tripped.
The flight was botched when they took off without wheels intending to foot land.
No flare...
Flair.
...required. Could be Switzerland and his accent sounds a bit Swiss.
Could be Manquin, Steve Exceptionally-Knowledgeable Wendt's safety center of the universe, where:

- you're prohibited from rolling your glider beyond the sixty placard

- Quallaby three-point releases, bent pin backups, pro toad bridles, standard aerotow weak links, and tug drivers who can fix whatever's going on back there by giving you the rope

- nobody's ever heard of a hook-in check

- Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney scored his instructor rating

- Brad Barkley oozed into the sport

- Greg DeWolf broke an arm trying to foot land a wheelless tandem with a female "student"

Accent there is more arrogant head-up-the-ass than Swiss though.
Jorge Zingg Jorge - 2015/06/05 08:32:33 UTC
Switzerland

Not Swiss - the guy filming at least. The language seems Slavic (correct word in English?)...
You're asking Jack Show guys about correct English? :roll:
...so Slovenia or something? The landscape could be here or Austria also. But: extremely bad landing technique, and additionally: landing a tandem with no wheels? Lucky men.
Pablo Garcia - 2015/06/05 09:27:44 UTC
Madrid

First time I ever see a tandem hang glider without wheels. Image
And how many other times have you seen a tandem make a bad landing?
birukobu - 2015/06/05 10:55:44 UTC
Russian Federation

That's russian guys))
That's my tandem(((
Bummer.
There are no wheels on base tube, that is why all this shit happened.
14-00725
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3859/14423696873_f1326e2320_o.png
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PS: Glider been repaired and flying again
Hoosier_Eagle - 2015/06/05 11:37:09 UTC

Thank you for owning.
That's his glider but he's not in the video.
I am going to assume it has wheels now?
But if this had been a solo we'd be having four pages of opinions about when to rotate upright, one hand up / one hand down, hands positions on the downtubes, Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney - the Patron Saint of Landing... 'Cause there's nothing wrong with flying a solo minus wheels or skids.
You know we cannot let this thread completely die without asking. Image
But you have no problem whatsoever letting the Kelly/Arys thread die - along with both of its subjects - without discussing having an actual release on a towed glider.
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