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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=884
The Bob Show
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/14 04:53:36 UTC

But what concerned me greatly was Tad's response when I asked him if he felt he'd done anything wrong by having homosexual relations with a 12 year old boy. I don't recall Tad's exact words, but they did not reflect any significant remorse for his actions toward the boy.
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=877
Discuss Tad here
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/14 05:42:43 UTC

But what concerned me greatly was Tad's response when I asked him if he felt he'd done anything wrong by having homosexual relations with a 12 year old boy. I don't recall Tad's exact words, but they did not reflect any significant remorse for his actions toward the boy.
http://www.kitestrings.org/post1011.html#p1011
You are NEVER hooked in.
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/16 18:58:18 UTC

Tad, your behavior in this matter is 100% consistent with your behavior in all other matters where we've had differences. In all cases, you've refused to admit certain obvious facts. Whether it's launching with a tight strap in high winds or assuming that a 12 year old can be an equal partner in a homosexual relationship, your views are distorted and you remain blinded to those distortions. His response was not reassuring and he offered no solution to mitigate the possibility for this to happen again.
http://www.kitestrings.org/post1025.html#p1025
The Bob Show
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/20 20:54:36 UTC

I asked Tad if he felt he had done anything wrong by having a homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy.
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=908
Janis Ian - At Seventeen (Live, 1976)
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/22 18:01:13 UTC

But when he became a 30 year old man and decided to enter into a homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy, he took advantage of that same fragile time for his own benefit. That's when he completed the cycle and became the abuser. He may have tried (and is still trying) to convince himself that it was good for the boy. But at the age of 12, that boy didn't have the maturity to make that kind of decision. That boy was the confused, shunned "misfit" from that song. Tad took advantage of that confused, shunned misfit. That's disgusting to me.
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=883
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/28 20:18:03 UTC

He expressed no regrets over his homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy other than that he regretted the consequences of getting caught.
http://www.kitestrings.org/post1206.html#p1206
The Bob Show
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/01/14 17:29:26 UTC

Tad, as a 30 something year old man, you had a homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy while you were in a position of trust with regard to that boy.
Do you think you did anything wrong?


In your answer please disregard the consequences of the law and of others who might have penalized or retaliated against either of you. I am only asking if you think you did anything wrong as a 30 year old man having a homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy in isolation of the societal consequences.
http://www.kitestrings.org/post1212.html#p1212
The Bob Show
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/01/14 21:56:08 UTC

Tad, I'm sorry, but I didn't find a clear answer to my post above:
bobk wrote:Tad, as a 30 something year old man, you had a homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy while you were in a position of trust with regard to that boy.

Do you think you did anything wrong?


In your answer please disregard the consequences of the law and of others who might have penalized or retaliated against either of you. I am only asking if you think you did anything wrong as a 30 year old man having a homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy in isolation of the societal consequences.
http://www.kitestrings.org/post1217.html#p1217
The Bob Show
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/01/15 07:11:25 UTC

Tad, you seem to be dodging this pretty simple question:
bobk wrote:Tad, as a 30 something year old man, you had a homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy while you were in a position of trust with regard to that boy.

Do you think you did anything wrong?


In your answer please disregard the consequences of the law and of others who might have penalized or retaliated against either of you. I am only asking if you think you did anything wrong as a 30 year old man having a homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy in isolation of the societal consequences.
Do you think you did anything wrong or not?
http://www.kitestrings.org/post2083.html#p2083
The Bob Show
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/05/06 04:33:44 UTC

Tad, you were banned not because of anything you said on the forum, but because you indicated to me that you didn't think you did anything wrong by having a homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy who was entrusted to you through the scouting program.
http://www.kitestrings.org/post2089.html#p2089
The Bob Show
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/05/06 21:59:22 UTC

You personally told me that you didn't see any problem with you (as a 30 something year old?) adult having had a homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy ... other than the societal ramifications which you felt were unjust.

That told me 2 things:
  • First, that you had no remorse and might repeat that same molestation behavior ... if you didn't think you'd get caught.
  • Second, that you have the ability to rationalize anything to justify your actions and refuse to admit any guilt or wrongdoing ... even when it is obvious.
It was those two elements that made it clear to me that you were a danger to both the sport and to people (like your molestation victim) who believe what you say. I offer that as a warning to anyone who is following what you say on this forum without extreme scrutiny.
Think ya beat that "homosexual relations(hip) with a 12 year old boy" thing to death enough, Bob? Eleven posts with fourteen references over six topics in two forums. Guess ya really got the ol' copy and paste function down, huh? Or did you just program a robot to generate that crap à la:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1701
Complaints about Tad

I wonder how many thousands of repetitions I'd have by now if I hadn't banned your miserable spamming ass.

Can ya tell us about all the successes you've had with that flavor of conversion therapy over the years? Maybe post a few testimonials?

It's just SO fucking obvious what you're doing, why, how... when ya do the searches, isolate the passages, look at the patterns. I feel like I've just cracked the Enigma code. What a lowlife hypocritical worm you are. I was SO fucking stupid to think I could ever engage you in an honest rational discussion on any issue. Ya only engage somebody who's worthy of respect. And if he's not worthy of respect and gets in the way you demolish him. You don't waste your time talking to a Tracy Tillmans and Jim Keen-Intellect Rooneys. You call them fucking morons and assholes then tear them to shreds with no mercy whatsoever.

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39919
Bob Kuczewski's video log
Russ Brown - 2014/11/12 18:11:15 UTC

Bob's City Council Speech

Could somebody please explain to me why Bob got a big cheer from the crowd at the end of his city council speech?
Thanks
Dan DeWeese - 2014/11/12 18:54:49 UTC

They dont know him.
You're a total asshole too but... There's something to that.
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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1759
2 + 2 = 7 ... A case study on how to be wrong.
Bill Cummings - 2015/02/16 05:15:05 UTC

On the early days of the Lakeview Hawks Forum there were some things said by someone that was obviously using different log in names that was without a doubt one individual.
I can no longer find those post. Maybe they were removed but I'm sure Bob has them archived somewhere and I would gladly point them out if I had access to them.
What gave the person away was the improper language syntax this individual used as each fake person.

As for my improper language syntax due probably to a mild or even moderate problem of undiagnosed childhood dyslexia I can't seem to learn and remember the proper use and placement for words like, Loose, Loss, Lose. These three are my worst but there/their are other examples too/to/two.
Had the sock puppet used the words that I have trouble with I never would have noticed but this individual consistently had trouble with words that I don't have trouble with and they stood out to me like a sore thumb.
I'm sure Bob also picked up on this sock puppet's dead give away at the time and my post will remind him that one of the sock puppet's was spotted on his very own Lakeview Hawks forum. (I could have been on the free speech forum. I'm not all that sure.)
Ex fuckin' zactly.
I said nothing at the time. If I had the sock puppet would have corrected his mistake and moved onto another log in name and be able to fool me more than once.
Right. Just like in The Imitation Game.

I read or heard on radio or TV somewhere that British radio people intercepting U-boat traffic (WW2 I think) could identify individual telegraph operators. And somebody with half a brain or better is gonna have much of a problem identifying sockpuppet patterns?

Note that I made the qualification "half a brain or better"...

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25302
Interview with Davis Straub, OzReport founder
Jack Axaopoulos - 2012/02/24 14:38:01 UTC

How interesting....
Newtons IP address and AeroTows IP addresses both come from the Wichita Kansas area.
Brad Barkley - 2012/02/24 14:51:15 UTC

I think this thread answers your question......
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=24633
FTHI
Jack Axaopoulos - 2012/02/24 15:00:21 UTC

Tad has been BANNED again.

The "Extremist 1%" is not allowed on this site. Go crawl back under your rock with Bob and the other extremists that get themselves banned from every site and group they deal with. You guys have a marvelous record of getting along with people. Image
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=24633
FTHI
Jack Axaopoulos - 2012/02/24 15:15:42 UTC

You guys need to PM me when TAD shows up. He is NOT allowed to access this website.
Jack Axaopoulos - 2012/02/24 15:15:42 UTC

You guys need to PM me when TAD shows up.
He is NOT allowed to access this website.

The IP address area matches Tad's old account.

If he comes back again, ill contact his ISP for illegal access which could get his account yanked.
That was fuckin' obviously michael170. I'd figured that in under two seconds. And that moron thinks that T** at K*** S****** and Bob Show Bob are buddies.

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=31781
Another hang check lesson
michael170 - 2014/09/25 04:48:33 UTC

That would be just after I started this thread:

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=24633
FTHI

Then SG gave me the boot because he thought I was Tad.
Confirmation. No acknowledgements, concessions, apologies from Jack or any Jack Show douchebags.
Therefore I believe Bob when he indicated that he knows of more than one sock puppet incident on forum(S) because I spotted the puppet two/to/too.
So did I. You're not reading my posts. You're just reading what Bob very selectively says about very selected passages of very selected posts.
I'm wondering if Tad noticed at the time and forgot or if he missed that completely.
None of the above. I miss very little and what I DO miss pretty much invariably gets picked up by the team here. We're the smartest guys in the room. That ain't saying much in a sport in which Jim Rooney is endorsed and gets his dick sucked for having a keen intellect but all ya gotta know to teach a dog is more than the dog.
So did dumb, old, poorly educated, me spot it and Tad missed it when it came up on his blind side.
Either read my posts or stop commenting on them, motherfucker.
Tad must have forgot otherwise he would never would have suggested that Bob was only exposed to one incident over on the hgdotorg.
It was BOB who suggested that he was only told by one operator.
Tad must have either:
1) Missed it!
2) Forgot it.
3) posted it.
(Is that all the options?)
No. There's the one in which there's stuff in the hang gliding cybersphere in which Tad has little to no interest. And unlike most others in this sport I've developed the ability to not read stuff in which he has little to no interest without any assistance from ignore and bury buttons.
Him missing and forgetting is out of the question. Right? 1+2=?
Get fucked.
I do have to say that just about 100% of Tad's work posted about towing is spot on.
So how come neither you nor anybody else is busy fixing the other two percent? How come you've got all this time to address all of Bob's fake, bullshit, red herring, sockpuppet crap and no time at all to get weak links specified and used exactly the same way they are in sailplaning - as overload protectors that never kick in in the absence of overload situations?

Lemme tell ya sumpin', Bill. In this game when somebody's spot on about 98 percent of an issue it's a real good bet that he's spot on about the other two as well.
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/16 05:40:45 UTC

Actually, I had forgotten about that incident as another case of "sock puppets".
Really? You had one of these devastating sockpuppet attacks right there on The Bob Show and you forgot all about it?
I was actually thinking specifically of an Oz Forum case that someone had confided to me, but your recollection of the Lakeview incident further strengthens the point.
Right. You'd had one of these devastating sockpuppet attacks right there on The Bob Show and you forgot all about it but it strengthens the point.
I will also point out (to anyone who doesn't know) that many of the people on this forum have met each other, flown with each other, talked with each other in person, talked with each other on the phone...
...jerked each other off...
...and shared meals with each other. I have personally met Bill, Sam, Joe, and many others on this forum. I've also spent a considerable amount of time talking to Tad and others on the phone.
You won't ever be spending any more time talking with Tad on the phone. Learned the hard way that I need everything in black and white.
I know that all of those people are real people.
What about...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1638
Basement Bob
Bob Kuczewski - 2014/11/20 05:37:34 UTC

Hi Bill,

I don't think you could have been any nicer or friendlier to "Nobody". You even added a considerable amount of self-deprecating humor for his benefit.

Here's your reward from Tad's forum (aka "kitestrings"):
Re: The Bob Show

Steve Davy - 2014/11/20 04:32:16 UTC

Bill,

You watched that video, saw bisfal bisto crash after having his weak link break, then advised that he not increase the strength of his weak link.

What kind of a sick person would offer that advice? Do you enjoy watching folks crash? What the f**k is wrong with you, Bill?

I'll say it again, rot in Hell pigf**ker!
From: http://www.kitestrings.org/topic33-320.html#p7036

If there was ever proof that you just can't be nice to some people ... this is it.
...Steve Davy? I didn't detect a lot of doubt in that post.
That's what we should know about everyone on this forum.
Well of course "WE" should. "WE" just said "WE" did, didn't "WE"?
If we're going to build a national hang gliding association together, we had better start with being able to pick up the phone and call each other whenever we want.
Yeah, let's make that a constitutional article along with the old Bob Kuczewski No Perverts Clause and new Bob Kuczewski Loyalty Oath and Bob Kuczewski Helmets In The Setup Area Mandate.
Anyone who can't tolerate that is not serious about building this association.
Of course he's not. Emperor Bob just said so, didn't he?

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/faq.php
Frequently Asked Questions
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
You will ... hopefully. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Everyone has to do their part once in a while. If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out. One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.
"WE" honor the free speech of "OUR" members so much that we're gonna force them all to exercise it - in manners such as:
Bob Kuczewski - 2014/11/19 19:12:48 UTC

So while my offer to reinstate "Nobody" based on a telephone discussion stands, I have to say that it will be a long conversation (maybe many conversations) and may not conclude with a restoration of posting rights.
You assholes are setting up Stalin. And the only good thing about this bullshit is that it's totally doomed to implode.
Warren Narron - 2015/02/16 05:58:42 UTC
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/16 05:40:45 UTC

Actually, I had forgotten about that incident as another case of "sock puppets".
You have not forgotten that "incident", Bob. It's just what we were talking about on another thread!
Bob's delusional. Give him a fuckin' break.
Bill, that "Lakeview" incident was the attack on Sara, that I pointed out immediately to Bob...
Oh. So...
Tad Eareckson - 2015/02/14 16:42:09 UTC

It was fuckin' obvious to everybody that an individual member was running sockpuppets.
...it was fuckin' obvious that an individual member was running sockpuppets. Who'da thunk?
...and he made excuse after excuse to 'protect the free speech of this multiple identity anonymous sock puppet'...
Yeah, Bob's a really great protector of free speech - unless, of course, the free speaker is someone:
- who:
-- is a:
--- pervert
--- supporter of a pervert
-- want's to say what the fuck he wants in the manner he fuckin' feels like without using asterisks
-- won't:
--- take a loyalty oath
--- engage in several long conversations with Empower Bob for the privilege of being considered for the privilege of limited forum access
--- agree to:
---- play nicely with the other kids in the sandbox
---- work cooperatively on SOPs development and compromise his positions
-- doesn't fit well into Bob's vision of hang gliding
- whom he:
-- feels like using for an experiment for about a month
-- has declared to have no genuine interest in building a new national hang gliding association
...instead of protecting his real in the flesh supposed friends, Sara and her mother.
Sara and her mother didn't NEED protection. Bob just wants his forum to be a safe place for people of varying ages to visit - and they weren't of varying ages. (Like Terry.)
What do you mean Bob, you don't remember this?
Is this more neural linguistic programming?
Do you think the whole list is already dumbed down enough that you can get away with obvious ....~misstatements~ like this?
It's always worked before.
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/16 06:25:03 UTC

Yes. You caught me again. There's no fooling you anymore Warren.
Or me, Steve, and Zack - to name a few more.
With regard to the Lakeview situation, I spent many hours on the phone talking with Sara, her mother, and a few other pilots in Lakeview.
Have you considered the possibility that that was a big factor in Sara's suicide?
I also tried to contact some of the "puppets" by phone before I knew they were puppets. That's why personal (or at least telephone) conversation is so critical to ensuring that this kind of thing doesn't happen again.
Bull fucking shit. That's why you need people with functional brains and common sense running things.
Tad Eareckson - 2015/02/14 16:42:09 UTC

It was fuckin' obvious to everybody that an individual member was running sockpuppets.
Bill Cummings - 2015/02/16 05:15:05 UTC

On the early days of the Lakeview Hawks Forum there were some things said by someone that was obviously using different log in names that was without a doubt one individual.
Warren Narron - 2015/02/16 05:58:42 UTC

Bill, that "Lakeview" incident was the attack on Sara, that I pointed out immediately to Bob and he made excuse after excuse to 'protect the free speech of this multiple identity anonymous sock puppet' instead of protecting his real in the flesh supposed friends, Sara and her mother.
It turned out that the Lakeview puppet master was extremely careless by using the same IP address for all of the "puppets".
How come Bill and Warren were so quickly and easily able to identify a sockpuppet op without access to the IP address?
But anyone with just slightly more care could log in from different locations (library, school, internet cafe, hotel hot spot...) if they wanted to better mask their identity.
They can't. They're not smart enough. They're obvious and thus no real threats.
Again, that's why I am requesting telephone conversations for people participating in the US Hawks Trial Board.
Oh. YOU're requesting telephone conversations for your Fake Board of Directors - Bill Cummings, Joe Faust, Sam Kellner, Scott C. Wise, Bob Kuczewski. You wanna make sure none of them are sockpuppets before you allow them into positions of no power whatsoever. That's a really great solution you have. Now all you need to do is find the problem for it.
- protecting people of varying ages from the possibility of communication with known unrepentant child molesters
- mandatory helmet use at all times pilots are connected to gliders
- mandatory telephone conversations with Emperor Bob as prerequisites for everyone
- Bob Show loyalty oaths

But if you're a totally incompetent dickhead and wanna kill another Bob Show member in a totally incompetent platform operation... No fuckin' problem whatsoever - just as long as the victim had some kind of helmet buckled on when he slammed in.
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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=908
Janis Ian - At Seventeen (Live, 1976)
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/16 04:41:01 UTC

I haven't seen this topic since December of 2011, but a recent post on Tad's web site reminded me of it.
Did you note the CONTEXT in which I referenced it?
As I reflect on all that's happened in these last 3 years...
You mean the three years following the month in which you launched your vicious smear campaign against me and concocted a total bullshit justification for banning me that didn't go over all that well?
...I'm more convinced than ever that it's important for all of us to stand up against bullying and abuse on all fronts.
Did you read the previous post - yours - in that now three post long thread? If you're having trouble finding it it's the second post, right after the first one, and the first one is just a link to a YouTube video.
Whether it's a 12 year old boy, a seventeen year old girl, a young woman in her 40's, or an aging hang gliding pilot approaching 60. We all deserve fairness, and we all have an obligation to participate in delivering fairness to each other.
Unless somebody has been declared by the state religion to be a subhuman threat to people of varying ages - then go ahead and beat the shit out of him all you want anyway you feel like.
Thanks for the post Nobody...
So you're not really sure at this point whether or not he's really Steve.
...and thanks for reminding me of it Tad.
No prob, dude. It brought up a lot of really cherished memories for me too. Thanks bigtime.
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/22 18:01:13 UTC

I believe that Tad took advantage of that boy...
- A relationship you never saw and are separated from by a quarter of a century and three thousand miles.
- You know absolutely nothing about the other party or his take other than second hand stuff from Yours Truly.
- Neither of us knows anything about him from the time period since.
- You're not the least bit interested in the finding/perspective of the court.

But, hell, if you BELIEVE something then go to the hilt with it 'cause what are the chances that YOU'd ever be wrong about anything and anybody else could be right.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=883
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/03/14 15:15:03 UTC

There are lots of things to learn from Tad's case. I am not convinced that I did the best thing, and I think it's good to talk about other alternatives.
I believe, I'm not convinced that I did the best thing... But, tough shit Tad. I can do whatever the fuck I like 'cause I make up and break whatever rules I feel like and nobody can do shit about it. And, really, it's just TAD we're pissing all over. And he gets pissed all over so much I doubt if he even notices a bit more.

You're the bully, Bob. Even Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney takes a rather distant second place to you on this one. And I've still gotta defend your position against other bullies at Torrey.
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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1759
2 + 2 = 7 ... A case study on how to be wrong.
Warren Narron - 2015/02/16 21:39:15 UTC

Left brain, right brain.. I don't know. My older brother tried to kill me with a John Deere 4020 about 50 years ago and my brain hasn't been the same since. I was knocked out pretty good from the three point boom I was swinging from, as -Billy- was driving, broke at the top link while he was trying to throw me off. The lights went out pretty good. Tad can have a shot at that info..
Well, I could use it on the global warming stuff but then that would delegitimize the support I get on glider stuff... So I better leave it alone - 'specially at this critical period when you're becoming acutely aware of what a total scam Bob is running and how he's doing it.
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Re: The Bob Show

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P.S...

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25015
Zippy pounds in
Davis Straub - 2011/09/02 18:37:09 UTC

Concussions are in fact very serious and have life long effects. The last time I was knocked out what in 9th grade football. I have felt the effects of that ever since. It changes your wiring.
I'm totally with Davis on the global warming stuff but totally despise on the glider stuff (and pretty much everything else). Weird.
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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1762
US Hawks Board of Directors
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/17 02:32:44 UTC

It's Official!!!

As of today, February 16th, 2015,
We Hereby Establish the
US Hawks Trial Board of Directors
consisting of:

• Joe Faust - California
• Sam Kellner - Texas
• Scott Wise - New York
• Bill Cummings - New Mexico
• Bob Kuczewski - California


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It's Official!!!
It's a dictatorship, Bob!!! The definition of Official is that You said it!!!
As of today, February 16th, 2015, We...
Who's "We"? Who got a say and who was specifically and totally excluded from having a say? If someone's locked down in your Basement because he didn't give his actual name and has attacked another member - preferably Sam - does that also automatically exclude one from all other participation and alleged influence? Same as when Emperor Bob has arbitrarily banned someone?
Hereby Establish the US Hawks...
Bob Show.
...Trial...
Fake.
...Board of Directors...
Dedicated Sycophants.
consisting of:

- Joe Faust - California
- Sam Kellner - Texas
- Scott Wise - New York
- Bill Cummings - New Mexico
- Bob Kuczewski - California
1. And only twenty percent of those guys has killed another Bob Show Member at his towing operation and submitted a fake fatality report for Tim Herr's eyes only! Real quality material!

2. Oh. Emperor Bob is also on the Fake Board of Directors. Nice job on the division of power (real and fake) and checks and balances stuff. Oh well, when you've got nothing but top notch individuals on a Fake Board they're all gonna be on the same page on everything so what's it really matter anyway? So you don't need to publish voting records - everything's gonna be Five-Zero. And even if Fake Board Member Bob is on one side of an issue and everybody else is on the other it's still gonna be Five-Zero.
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So Warren...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1682
Soldiers Guarding Poppies Not Rosa Parks
Sam Kellner - 2015/02/12 16:40:28 UTC

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Warren Narron - 2015/02/12 17:21:53 UTC

Forum management

Ok, new rules on my thread.
[*] No smilies without content. You have to write something in order to use smilies.
[*] Smilies only allowed in quantity relative to quality of text message. No strings of smilies attached to specious arguments.
[*] To be determined
126 obnoxious self-complimentary/congratulatory smilies to 37 self-complimentary/congratulatory words - 3.4 to 1 ratio. Watchya think of the kickoff of this alleged new Bob Show phase?
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Re: The Bob Show

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Warren Narron - 2015/02/17 18:32:55 UTC

Bob's big announcement last nite: Building US Hawks

Bob made a decision/ruling on 'trial' Board, ostensibly to review disputed items affecting the club.
No consultation or vote from me because: 'embryonic' democracy?
And I'm a senior member here and was on the short list of the prospective Board.

Now I don't even feel I can get a fair trial from this trial board.
New rules need to be made here too, I guess.
Is this a question for the board? Or the Emperor, alone?
What's the difference? The Fake Board has no power or control over anything.
So far, the government being set up for this National Hang Gliding Organization looks to be an Embryonic/Democratic/Dictatorship.
What's new?
The first case formally before the board involves Bob as the:
[*] Member/Claimant/Prosecutor
[*] "Trial" Board Member/Judge
[*] Singular Supreme Judge/Emperor
[*] Emperor's Enforcer/Executioner of Executive Judgment

See what I mean?
Yeah, I've been working a lot on that same stuff myself lately.
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Yeah, I noticed that. Real honor to be the issue that triggered that particular number.
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1764
Review of Tad Eareckson's Ban from US Hawks
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/17 04:06:03 UTC

US Hawks Board Members,

I had promised Tad that a review of his ban would be brought before the US Hawks Board of Directors as soon as the Board was formed. So I am posting this request as the first issue to be considered for discussion and decision by the Board.

I am posting this as a member of the US Hawks (and not as a Board Member), and it is my recommendation - as a member - that the Board make the decision to defer this discussion for some number of months (2 to 6) so that the Board can get used to operating as a Board before making a decision that may significantly change the experience of all of our users on the forum.

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully Submitted,
Bob Kuczewski
Member of the US Hawks
I'll be having a lot of fun with that one.
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/17 18:48:41 UTC

Hi Warren,

You know that I encouraged you to be a member of the first Trial Board, but I wanted the Board members to be able to talk to one another.
Without anything on the record for those outside of The Priesthood to be able to review.
Last night I called each and every Board member and with their consent I've shared their phone numbers and email addresses with each other.
Bold move.
We're planning on making regular phone calls to each other (possibly including conference calls and video conference calls).
See above.
I want the US Hawks Board Members to be able to call each other...
And everything's all about what BOB wants, isn't it?
...on a moment's notice...
To deal with crisis situations - like when a potential threat to people of varying ages is discovered in our midst.
...and I want them to welcome calls from each other.
Ya hear that, Fake Board of Directors members? Bob has determined that ya gotta WELCOME calls from each other. If somebody has volunteered and been accepted for Bob's Fake Board he's gotta WELCOME any call from any other asshole who's volunteered and been accepted for Bob's Fake Board at any moment. And remember that Sam Kellner is ALREADY on the Fake Board...

- "Hey, what's up."
- "Just wanted to let you know that Terry left Real County Airport a couple hours ago to be with his Lord."
- "Oh my God!" What happened!"
- "Fuck you. You don't get an accident report."
- "Oh. Sorry. Didn't mean to infringe on your right to remain silent."
- "Well alright then."
- "Great hearing from you, Sam! Call at any moment's notice. I always welcome your calls - just like it says in the SOPs."
That's what we're going to need to make this work.
And you, of course, know this to be indisputable FACT based upon your vast experience setting up all the previous successful national hang gliding associations. And I hope you're right. 'Cause if you are there's no fuckin' way in hell it'll work. Some lunatic sociopathic control freak dictating that all members of a group hafta really like each other - a group, lest we forget, that includes the aforementioned lunatic sociopathic control freak who's dictated that all members of the group hafta really like each other.
That's also a protection against the central control...
CENTAL CONTROL!!! Holy Shit! We certainly need to be on guard against that malignancy creeping its way into a grass roots movement like The Bob Show!
...that Jack used to decimate the HGAA.
And you're using to decimate any hope of anything good coming out of The Bob Show.
Once everyone has everyone else's phone numbers and email addresses they're no longer constrained by who controls the forum.
And, of course, everyone needs BOTH everyone else's phone numbers and email addresses. And people involved in the HGAA fiasco had NO WAY to contact each other because they hadn't previously exchanged phone numbers and email addresses. They couldn't contact each other through Jack or Davis Show PMs, USHGA PilotConnect, mutual friends... Jack was able to shut EVERYTHING down. Sure is a good thing for the forces of the free world that Hitler didn't have a Jack Axaopoulos at his disposal.
That's the kind of protection from tyranny that I want to build into the US Hawks.
Un fucking believable.
As an added bonus, the phone communication path is an important backup if any user's account (or the entire forum) is compromised.
Email isn't good enough.
It's relatively easy to maliciously impersonate someone via email or on a forum, but it's much harder to do the same mischief with a telephone.
Bullshit. Fake issue.
I don't know why you've refused to share your phone number with this group...
Looks like there's at least two of us who don't want any phone contact with you. Pretty sure you can put Steve Davy on that list as well. And I've advised him not to talk with you 'cause I know exactly what your purposes would be in doing so - probe for something, distort/misrepresent it, use it as justification for something you were gonna do anyway.
...but that decision is incompatible with the kind of organization we're building here.
Course it is. Emperor Bob has just declared it to be so. And only Emperor Bob has the freedom to...
Bob Kuczewski - 2014/12/28 06:21:51 UTC

Silence is not consent. It's just silence.
...NOT exercise his free speech rights.
I don't think you're on trial to begin with.
Oh. You don't THINK he is. So we can take that as he's on trial.
If you're talking about your dispute with Jim...
Jim Gaar? Fuck anybody who doesn't have a serious dispute with that sonuvabitch.
I believe this Board is made up of very good people and they will do their best to be fair to everyone.
Who meets with Emperor Bob's approval.
I've outlined a process for bringing matters before the Board...
Yeah. Post something.
...and I used Tad's banning...
That was YOUR banning - motherfucker. I had nothing to do with it.
...as an example of how to submit a request to the Board.
Prejudicially - and without any input from the victim.
You're free to submit any request you like...
Must be nice.
...but please be mindful that your request must be something within the power of the Board...
Which, since it's a totally Fake Board with no power whatsoever, gives you a pretty good idea just how much luck you can expect to have with anything.
...and within the scope of the US Hawks Hang Gliding Association.
Which is a synonym for Emperor Bob Kuczewski.
Please let me know if you'd like help with that process.
I'd like to help him with that process.
Warren, if you're not happy with what we're building here...
...you've indicated a capacity for rational thought processes.
...there are many alternatives:

- USHPA
Bullshit.
- HangGliding.org
Bullshit.
- Oz Forum
Bullshit.
- KiteStrings
1. "Kite Strings" is two words.

2. The purpose of Kite Strings isn't to build an alternative national hang gliding association and welcome with open arms any asshole who feels like signing up. It's mostly an educational and watchdog resource largely dedicated to neutralizing assholes like you as threats to the sport.
The great thing about choices is that people should go out and seek the organizations that they feel most comfortable with.
Like the choices people had in Nazi Germany.
I welcome you here if you like what we're...
I'm.
...doing, but if you don't then please go find what resonates with you.
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24846
Is this a joke ?
Jim Rooney - 2011/08/31 09:25:57 UTC

See, you don't get to hook up to my plane with whatever you please. Not only am I on the other end of that rope... and you have zero say in my safety margins... I have no desire what so ever to have a pilot smashing himself into the earth on my watch. So yeah, if you show up with some non-standard gear, I won't be towing you. Love it or leave it. I don't care.
Love Bob Rooney or leave Bob Rooney, motherfucker.
I am learning that we cannot tolerate people who join us with the intention of undermining or destroying us.
1. Bob Rooney.

2. Or fags. 'Specially fags who join us with the intention of undermining or destroying us.

3. Name some people who've done that and tell me what problems they've caused.

4. Can you list some of the other stuff "WE" can't tolerate? Is there some reason it's not already in the SOPs? Here's all Kite Strings ever needed:
Zack C - 2010/11/23 05:23:34 UTC

The purpose of Kite Strings is to foster serious discussion regarding the practices and technologies of modern hang gliding. This is a forum ruled by science, truth, facts, reason, and logic. Anyone with a respect for these principles and a willingness to learn and engage in rational discussion is welcome to participate.

As for rules, just keep it civil, stay on topic, keep topics in line with the forum purpose, and don't lie or misrepresent others' statements.
It's been working JUST FINE for over four years now. Haven't needed to:
- experiment on anybody by locking him down in a Basement for about a month
- make:
-- special rules for special people
-- Kite Strings a safe place for people of varying ages to visit
- exclude anyone with halfway legitimate looking registration information
- ban anyone for anything other than the most grotesque violations of the principles and rules
- tell anyone he couldn't express himself any fuckin' way he felt like
- mandate that members must:
-- be willing to compromise their positions in working with others to achieve goals
-- exchange phone numbers and email addresses
-- welcome phone calls from any other members at any moment's notice

The only Kite Strings member with at least one post here with whom I've ever had a telephone communication is YOU. And that breach was ultimately disastrous - because you were never a legitimate member - just a saboteur, like your Orion Price...

http://www.shga.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3840
[TIL] About Tad Eareckson

...buddy, and Homosexual Relationship With A 12 Year Old Boy spammer.

Wanna quote some folk with complaints about how Kite Strings is being run? OP; Sam; Peter Birren; Marc Fink; Mike End-Of-Story Bomstad; Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney; Dr. Trisa Tilletti; Dennis Excellent-Book Pagen; Joe Greblo; Grebloville; USHGA; CHGA; Ridgely; Quest; Lockout; Cowboy Up; Davis, Jack, Bob and their Dedicated Sycophants?

Ever hear the adage, "He who governs least governs best."? Ever think about that in relationship to the paranoid control freak insanity that you're wreaking?
So if you harbor animosity against what we're doing...
"We" meaning, of course, "Bob".
...then please don't suffer here.
And for the love o' Bob don't stay over there and...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/faq.php
Frequently Asked Questions
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
You will ... hopefully. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Everyone has to do their part once in a while. If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out. One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.
...do your duty to speak out when you see something being done wrong. Emperor Bob only meant that with respect to Unrepentant Child Molesters - certainly not with respect to insane paranoid control freaks.
Go find what makes you happy.
Lessee...

- A corrupt national monopoly that's destroyed my flying career and has fucked you over to the maximum extent possible...

- Of the other three... All three of us have been banned from the Jack and Davis Shows and one of us has been banned from Kite Strings. And Warren's already and has been a contributing member here.
I mean that with the sincerest and best intentions.
So do I whenever I'm telling someone he can go fuck himself.
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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1764
Review of Tad Eareckson's Ban from US Hawks
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/17 04:06:03 UTC

US Hawks Board Members,

I had promised Tad that a review of his ban would be brought before the US Hawks Board of Directors as soon as the Board was formed.
And I've waited the better part of five years before I've bothered to take the tiniest tentative step in the general direction of some degree of power sharing. But don't worry...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/faq.php
Frequently Asked Questions
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
You will ... hopefully. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Everyone has to do their part once in a while. If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out. One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.
The Bob Show REALLY DOES honor the free speech of its members.*

* Other than, of course, its members it feels like:
- excluding from various subforums
- experimenting on and locking down it its Basement
- arbitrarily banning on the whim of its Dictator
So I am posting this request as the first issue to be considered for discussion and decision by the...
...Fake...
...Board.
What an honor!
I am posting this as a member...
Just a regular member, just one of the boys.
...of the US Hawks (and not as a...
...Fake Unelected...
...Board Member), and it is my recommendation - as a member...
...the only one with a vote that actually counts...
- that the Board make the decision to defer this discussion for some number of months (2 to 6)...
Sure. Why not?

- Tad gets locked down in Bob's Basement "for about a month" because Bob wants to see just how good an idea this highly valued Freedom of Speech bullshit really is.

- Then:

-- using offline conversations Bob, using his child molester card, attempts to blackmail him into leaving quietly.

-- Bob:

--- publicly plays his child molester card.

--- decides that the state justice system hadn't fucked Tad over adequately a quarter century ago.

--- bans Tad 'cause he fuckin' feels like it and doesn't even bother with the appearance of getting any kind of consensus or pulling a new rule out of his ass retroactively to justify his action.

--- comes over to Kite Strings for a few months to flood it with Homosexual Relationship With A 12 Year Old Boy spam until he gets his fuckin' plug pulled.

--- waits over three years since the super extrajudicial banning to stack a Fake Board of Directors with the people he wants on it.

--- suggests a review of Emperor Bob's super extrajudicial action.

So what's another two to six months of total injustice gonna matter?
...so that the...
...Fake Unelected...
...Board can get used to operating as a Board...
...exactly the way Emperor Bob wants it to...
...before making a decision that may significantly change the experience of all of our users on the forum.
And Bob CERTAINLY isn't gonna do ANYTHING to PREJUDICE his Fake Unelected Board of Directors like telling them that if they fake overrule Emperor Bob's wise and prudent decision that they're deliberately unleashing a psychopathic sexual predator on untold scores of innocent little people of varying ages - immediately turning the Bob Show into a virtual nuther Kite Strings.
Thank you for your time.
Thank them for me too, Bob. I'm not allowed to thank them myself over there.
Respectfully Submitted,
Bob Kuczewski
Member of the US Hawks
VERY Respectfully Submitted. You're a VERY Respectful Person.

I don't wanna prejudice the Bob Show Fake Unelected Board of Directors either but I just can't help myself...

- Bill Cummings - New Mexico

Good thing Bob banned me from The Bob Show and thus made the entire Internet a totally safe place for your people of varying ages and grand people of varying ages to visit, huh Bill?

- Joe Faust - California

Thanks for hosting my PDFs. Give Orion Price a buzz sometime and get him to follow up on his promise to explain why all my lunatic rantings should be pulled down.

- Sam Kellner - Texas

I know you don't like reading long winded posts so... Suck my dick you smiley spamming, brain dead, ass kissing, dump levering pigfucker. (Hope that wasn't too long winded for you.)

- Scott C. Wise - New York

People over here have worked their asses off to get Davis Show shit heads to say stuff 'cause it's ALWAYS gonna flatly contradict crap and lies they've spewed before and we use that - quite effectively - to destroy their credibility. When you threaten to make a federal case out of some idiot like Bille Floyd saying:
Dude -- you got some Serious mental issues ; probably Why you hang with Bob ? !!!
Translation = you got Crap for brains .
the conversation immediately shuts down and the record gets erased and we lose our ammo supply. Good work, Scott. Keep it up.

P.S. He has a point about you hanging with Bob.

- Bob Kuczewski - California

When I get my free speech rights restored I'm gonna use them to get you banned from US Hawks for your next five lifetimes for betraying and gutting every principle you laid down in your Fake Mission Statement. Also need to do something about getting your USHGA ratings permanently revoked for spewing all that shit about stalls being harmless.

Well, that's about all the ass kissing I care to do for the moment.

Respectfully Submitted,
Tad Eareckson
Banned Member of the US Hawks Number One - and fuckin' proud of it.
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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1742
Terms of Service discussion.
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/19 20:08:13 UTC

I just wanted to note that the Terms of Service are currently under review by the Trial US Hawks Board of Directors.
Wow! That sure was a stunning news bulletin! Thanks for keeping us peasants tuned in to what's going on! That telephone conference stuff must really be working out real well. (And if you have telephone conferences nobody can complain that he was denied permission to witness/audit any meetings.)

Of course that post also kicks "Review of Tad Eareckson's Ban from US Hawks" out of the most recent slot in "Building the US Hawks" and changes the posts total from 666 to 667. Probably something to be said for that too.

And as long as I'm here, Fake Board of Directors...

No matter what you do *I* win.

- Fake Board of Directors overrule Emperor Bob's grotesquely extrajudicial hit and I get to resume my duty of speaking out whenever I see something that's not being done correctly, because one big difference between the Bob Show and other organizations is that the Bob Show - which is a target rich environment like no other - really does honor the free speech of its members.

- Fake Board of Directors overrule Emperor Bob's grotesquely extrajudicial hit and Emperor Bob overrules his Fake Board of Directors. :D

- Fake Board of Directors endorses Emperor Bob's grotesquely extrajudicial hit...
Zack C - 2011/12/17 14:56:03 UTC

I don't know whether you were genuinely doing what you felt was the right thing to do or just looking for convenient justification to finally can Tad, but I believe your actions were inappropriate and set a terrible precedent for your organization.
Trust me. I CAN and WILL work with that one.

That fuckin' control freak nut case you bozos have signed on with is constantly stacking and restacking the deck for short term convenience and inevitable failure. The best option you have is to ignore the motherfucker's recommendation to keep pissing on me for another two to six months, Fake vote to fully restore my rights, apologize to me, and condemn Bob for his despicable and contemptible conduct in no uncertain terms.

And if/when he overrules you immediately resign from the Fake Board and start doing your duty to speak out when you see something being done incorrectly. And it's pretty fuckin' obvious you won't do that 'cause none of you has hitherto uttered the slightest peep of protest over Bob's despicable and contemptible conduct. And Sam had his nose surgically implanted several inches up Bob's ass years ago.

And good luck writing the SOP I'd have broken if only Emperor Bob had been able to think of one in time for me to have broken it. That should really help attract a lot of new members and people of varying ages to your new association. Background checks, telephone interviews, morality screenings, notarized statements of remorse... Or maybe just continue with whatever-the-fuck-we-feel-like the way all the other shitty little glider groups do. If it ain't broke...
miguel - 2012/05/11 15:03:36 UTC

Color me slow, but I finally figured out what is going on.
miguel - 2012/05/07 17:22:51 UTC

:( Very poor taste, Bob.
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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=929
Training Manual Comments / Contribution
Bill Cummings - 2012/01/13 21:44:54 UTC

HAWKS,
I think it was a prudent move on Bob's part, and also from a legal perspective, that he put into type on this forum his intent to protect young readers.
1. By doing what? Telling young readers to stay the fuck away from...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8143/7462005802_bbc0ac66ac_o.jpg
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...Sam Kellner and his towing operation and tandem thrill ride drivers...
The Press - 2006/03/15

The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) is urgently pushing for new hang-gliding industry standards after learning a hang-gliding pilot who suffered serious injuries in a crash three weeks ago had not clipped himself on to the glider.

Extreme Air tandem gliding pilot James (Jim) Rooney safely clipped his passenger into the glider before departing from the Coronet Peak launch site, near Queenstown, CAA sports and recreation manager Rex Kenny said yesterday.

However, he took off without attaching himself.

In a video, he was seen to hold on to the glider for about fifty meters before hitting power lines.

Rooney and the passenger fell about fifteen meters to the ground.
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...who never do hook-in checks?

2. Bob puts into type all kinds of shit he INTENDS to do...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/faq.php
Frequently Asked Questions
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
You will ... hopefully. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Everyone has to do their part once in a while. If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out. One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.
...before going out and actually doing the precise opposite.

3. So what has Bob ever actually done to protect young readers? Quote something from The Bob Show archives that was a threat to young readers that's been removed or neutralized as a consequence of Emperor Bob's vigilance.

4. Why is what Emperor Bob puts into type as his intent to protect young readers so fucking important in a "grassroots" organization such as The Bob Show? Was there something stopping you from doing anything about the threats to young readers you were seeing? Emperor Bob states in his mission statement that:
If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out.
So were you seeing something that wasn't being done correctly and being derelict in your duty to speak out - thus leaving in place an obvious threat to young readers?

5. Cite me a single scrap of evidence that The Bob Show has ever once had a single young reader. Ditto for Kite Strings. How many young readers do you think there are who've gotten fed up with USHGA's bullshit and are interested in helping Bob in his mission do build an alternate national hang gliding association.

6. Quote some stuff from hang gliding forums not under Emperor Bob's thumb that presents threats to young readers - including Kite Strings.
As a parent and grandparent I would expect nothing less of a website moderator.
But if you weren't a parent and grandparent you wouldn't really give a flying fuck about the protection of young readers.

Here was Bob's Plan A...
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/15 00:27:23 UTC

Peaceful Coexistence

Hello Tad,

I just wanted to codify in writing what I had been proposing on the phone today.

I feel that we have some common goals and some conflicting goals. Unfortunately, I feel that the conflicting goals will end up destroying our ability to cooperate. That's the "train wreck" that I mentioned during our phone calls.

I believe if we continue down the current path, that train wreck will destroy our ability to cooperate on any of our shared goals, and we will walk away as enemies. I would like to avert that train wreck with the simple suggestion that we use our two forums for the different purposes that we've defined and that we mutually support the two forums for those different purposes.

More specifically, I would like to see you voluntarily resign from active participation in the US Hawks with a statement that you support what we are doing but want to focus on your work at Kite Strings. I will follow that with a statement that we've appreciated your contributions to the US Hawks and we'll be following your progress on Kite Strings as well as seeking your specialized advice as we progress in building the US Hawks. I'll encourage cross-linking to Kite Strings, and you'll encourage cross-linking to US Hawks. We'll both benefit.

If we can do something like that, then I think it will help both of our causes and strengthen our ability to cooperate on our shared objectives. If we cannot do something like that, then I think we'll end up harming both our shared objectives and our non-shared objectives as this train wreck evolves. This is a sincere offer to try to work together, and I hope you'll take it in that spirit.

Thanks,
Bob Kuczewski
Blackmail a known child molester into resigning to spend more time with his family and then sending people of varying ages over to the known child molester. Tell me just how that's consistent with his intent to protect young readers. If he was REALLY sincere about his intent to protect young readers wouldn't he want the known child molester to stay on The Bob Show where he could much more easily monitor the known child molester's communications with the young readers?
To have knowledge of child endangerment or abuse and not report it or intervene can, in many states, land an individual in a lot of, "hot water."
And this is relevant to any discussion how? Name the child who was being endangered or abused and how. How 'bout this one?:

7-14522
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Nathan Cox, age five. Up with Mitch Shipley...

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=27396
Scooter tow faillure... or Never Land On Your Face
Mitch Shipley - 2012/10/22 19:04:16 UTC

We engage in a sport that has risk and that is part of the attraction.
After rearranging a guy's face by foot launching him when a dolly was available and pulling him on crap equipment.

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22660
What can be learned from this "scooter" towing accident?
Mitch Shipley - 2011/01/31 15:22:59 UTC

Enjoy your posts, as always, and find your comments solid, based on hundreds of hours / tows of experience and backed up by a keen intellect/knowledge of the issues when it comes to most things in general and hang gliding AT/Towing in particular. Wanted to go on record in case anyone reading wanted to know one persons comments they should give weight to.
Endorses the biggest total asshole this sport has ever seen, one who's launched a tandem glider unhooked and flown his glider and passenger into the powerlines and told us that that sorta thing is pretty much inevitable for anyone who flies long enough, has no fuckin' clue as to the strengths of the weak links he flies and forces everyone else to, violates the crap outta FAA and USHGA regulations every time he's involved in an aerotow at either end of the line, totally discredited.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bRrpHNa68iY/UQ6Pv9gRZyI/AAAAAAAAjTg/Hc22bx5122Q/s2048/20943781_BG1.jpg
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At an aerotow operation that kills a tandem aerotow instructor and reports that absolutely nothing was done wrong, sometimes shit just happens, every tow is just a dice roll.

And he's on cheap, dangerous, illegal equipment which has killed tandems just like it before - one at the same operation.

Tell me how that is NOT child endangerment.
It is my understanding that free speech rights only protect us from our governments' interference of us exercising that right.
It's your understanding...

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30971
Zach Marzec
Bill Cummings - 2013/02/28 06:11:37 UTC

When the pilot lost the towline it had the nose too high and due to that it climbed into a stall. My weaklinks would not allow me to climb that fast and develop into a stall like that.
...that your (1.6 G) weak links will preclude the possibility of you climbing into a dangerous stall.
(With exceptions.)

We could be constrained by our employers as a condition of our employment not to say certain things concerning the company we work for. The First Amendment lacks horsepower in this regard. At many work places you check most of your rights at the gate. (What do you mean that I can’t carry a gun in my lunch pail?)
Yeah, so?
For anyone to think that they have a right to say anything they want to say on a message board put up by someone else shows a certain lack of understanding of how things really work.
A message board which professes:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/faq.php
Frequently Asked Questions
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
You will ... hopefully. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Everyone has to do their part once in a while. If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out. One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.
So what you're saying is that Bob's lying, right? He's not my fucking employer, he doesn't pay me anything, and he lures / false advertises me into his dump on the promise that my free speech really will be honored above all else - without qualification.
Bob has proven to be long suffering and able to tolerate much abuse but some people just can't sit in a crowded theater and not yell, "FIRE!"
What the fuck? I thought this was supposed to be all about people of varying ages endangerment. How the hell did we get to sitting in a crowded theater and yelling, "FIRE!"? Quote me something that justifies that total bullshit statement at the end if your total bullshit babbling post.

But thanks for adding your voice to the mountain of evidence that my banning had total shit to do with Bob's total bullshit "known unrepentant child molester" pretense. That the ACTUAL reason he banned me was 'cause he can't tolerate anybody calling him on his scams and going after his asshole Dedicated Sycophants.
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/01/14 17:01:38 UTC

Thanks Bill.
Oh. You too.
You've given a fine expression to the issues involved and said it far better than I could have done myself.
Bloody well did, didn't he? But did you ACTUALLY READ IT?
Thanks for your level-headed thinking and writing.
Zillions. Right in line with:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=822
US Hawks Hook-In Verification Poll
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/11/20 15:52:52 UTC

You're very observant Bill!! To some extent, I've painted myself into a corner with my stand on free speech. Image
Sincerely and gratefully,
Bob Kuczewski
No shit.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1764
Review of Tad Eareckson's Ban from US Hawks
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/17 04:06:03 UTC

US Hawks Board Members,

I had promised Tad that a review of his ban would be brought before the US Hawks Board of Directors as soon as the Board was formed. So I am posting this request as the first issue to be considered for discussion and decision by the Board.

I am posting this as a member of the US Hawks (and not as a Board Member), and it is my recommendation - as a member - that the Board make the decision to defer this discussion for some number of months (2 to 6) so that the Board can get used to operating as a Board before making a decision that may significantly change the experience of all of our users on the forum.

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully Submitted,
Bob Kuczewski
Member of the US Hawks
A decision that may significantly change the experience of all of our users on the forum. Not really so much about protecting our younger readers is it, Bob? All I can think is that it's really about the threat of a dissenting voice - free speech outside of what meets with Emperor Bob's approval.

P.S. That's the first five hundred posts on this topic. Hoping the next five hundred will be half as much fun.
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