The Bob Show

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Re: The Bob Show

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Oz forum
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/05/29 18:34:18 UTC

Along those lines, this August 13th will mark 5 years of the US Hawks forum.
Which, unlike other organizations, really does honor the free speech of its members - just as long as the speech and the members meet with Emperor Bob's approval.
I'd like to set a goal of incorporation and establishing our Board of Directors by that date.
You've already established your Board of Directors. You cited it in your testimony to the u$hPa Kangaroo Court pretending to be deciding on 2015/04/22 whether or not to execute your expulsion as a model of fairness and openness - while forgetting to mention that your Board consisted of members all appointed by their Emperor and that it had ZERO power to do anything other than rubber stamp its Emperor’s decisions.
I've never incorporated anything before...
That's OK, Bob. You've had plenty of experience in establishing your Board of Directors and neutralizing and expelling members not in sync with your positions.
...so I don't know how reasonable that is, but I like it as a goal.
How 'bout THIS:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1764
Review of Tad Eareckson's Ban from US Hawks
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/17 04:06:03 UTC

US Hawks Board Members,

I had promised Tad that a review of his ban would be brought before the US Hawks Board of Directors as soon as the Board was formed. So I am posting this request as the first issue to be considered for discussion and decision by the Board.

I am posting this as a member of the US Hawks (and not as a Board Member), and it is my recommendation - as a member - that the Board make the decision to defer this discussion for some number of months (2 to 6) so that the Board can get used to operating as a Board before making a decision that may significantly change the experience of all of our users on the forum.

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully Submitted,
Bob Kuczewski
Member of the US Hawks
goal? We're now beyond the midpoint of your "some" number of months and confirming my expulsion was supposed to be a field test of your Fake Board of Directors before you trusted it with any degree of control. Surely you're not gonna leave the window extended those three or four days beyond it going live and leave ANY risk if it doing something you don't want it to - plus fail to run it through the field test as per your stated intent in mid February.

So here are your options, Bob. The Board:

- upholds your backstabbing of me. Then it's gotta write into the Bylaws the justification for the backstabbing. (Might wanna give Sam that assignment. Or, fuck, I'd be DELIGHTED to write something up in whatever direction you wanna point.)

- overturns your backstabbing. Then I've been sitting in prison for three and two thirds years without charges or even any law on the books I'm supposed to have broken.

- KEEPS DOING NOTHING - while I keep rotting in prison.

Whatever happens or doesn't happen *YOU* *ARE* *FUCKED*. You've already made what u$hPa did to you look like a blinding beacon of fairness, justice, principled action compared to what you've done and are doing to me - and, for that matter, Steve.

You're trying to build up a marble temple and you've already laid a foundation of total shit 'cause you decided that would be good enough at the time. And you now don't have any good options for going back, starting over, and doing things right.
Zack C - 2011/12/17 14:56:03 UTC

I don't know whether you were genuinely doing what you felt was the right thing to do or just looking for convenient justification to finally can Tad, but I believe your actions were inappropriate and set a terrible precedent for your organization.
Didn't think that was gonna bite ya, did ya? Too bad the blackmail effort didn't work out for ya. Check out how Dennis Hastert's doing now. (And let me be the first to say that I hope the "Individual A" punk gets nailed bigtime for this one.)
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Re: The Bob Show

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June 14th, 2015 - Torrey Hawks Second Sunday in June
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/06/15 18:54:21 UTC

On the Oz Forum:

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42710
The heat is on!
Ben Reese - 2015/06/15 07:59:58 UTC

It does not matter who is right or wrong!
For those who agree with Ben, there's an association for you.

For everyone else ... we're building the U.S. Hawks. Come join us.
EVERYONE, Bob? "We"? "Us"?

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1764
Review of Tad Eareckson's Ban from US Hawks

C'mon, Respectfully Submitted Bob. Less than two months to go to get some nice lookin' lipstick on that pig you created three and a half years ago.

Donchya just love watching megahypocrites maneuver themselves into positions in which all options - including doing nothing - massively lethally suck.
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Re: The Bob Show

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Flying with children
Frank Colver - 2015/06/17 20:41:41 UTC

Since certain death or serious injury will occur if turbulence collapses the canopy...
...or if a Torrey tandem thrill ride driver pulls down a few inches on the center nose lines for a couple seconds...
...at 150 feet or so from the ground, with no ability of any pilot to prevent the crash, (safety is just chance if in anything but continuous calm conditions) couldn't anybody taking a child, who is below the legal age of consent, on a paraglider flight, be charged with child endangerment?
Sure, there's an absolute rain of people of varying ages plummeting to their deaths on these thrill rides. Somebody's gotta put a stop to this slaughter. I nominate Rick Masters.
Many countries have laws protecting such children.
Yeah, let's get some more laws on the books over here to deal with this epidemic.

How 'bout some of you child / child protection obsessed and fixated Bob Show douchebags pull your heads outta your asses and help address some ACTUAL problems with brain dead easy fixes - preferably in HANG gliding.

People wanna kill themselves on paragliders then let 'em. If they start killing significant numbers of thrill riders - particularly thrill riders of varying ages - that's gonna be a rapidly self correcting problem.
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Flying with children
Rick Masters - 2015/06/17 21:45:37 UTC

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http://www.independence.aero/en/products/harnesses/kids.html
Tandem harness Kid's - made for children - independence paragliding
Kid's - passenger harness for children

Kid's is a smaller edition of our big harnesses and is made for all pilots, who want to go tandem paragliding with their child. The passenger harness for kids comes up with all features, pilots expect from a good harness.

The children passenger harness has a protector, drop-out safeguard and special child-proof locks in oder to prevent the locks being opened during flight. Material, belt layout and sewings are identic to our large passenger harnesses.
Joe Faust - 2015/06/17 23:02:17 UTC

From the KIDS harness product pages:
Questions & answers

Is the child passenger harness certified?


Unfortunately it isn't! Certification for such small sizes ist not possible, as there are no test dummies available for little harnesses like Kid's. Certification standards just aren't destined for child sizes.
But: the whole harness is, from belts to sewings, exactly designed and manufactured like our large certified passenger harness.
Goddam!

- Like if you've only certified your Otis elevator for a dozen two hundred and fifty pounders who knows how it's gonna hold up with a dozen twenty-five pounders!

- And when we haul our people of varying ages up on hang gliders we don't settle for certified, compliant, legal equipment. We go all the way with:
-- Industry Standard
-- typically used
-- state of the art
-- simple
-- not:
--- homemade
--- funky shit
-- proven systems that work
-- huge track records
-- stuff that:
--- comes from reliable sources
--- we don't make ourselves - at home or anywhere else
--- is illustrated and described in the excellent book, Towing Aloft, by Dennis Pagen and Bill Bryden
--- everybody uses already
--- is easily stored
--- makes Davis happy
--- doesn't come from Tad's hole in the ground
Rick Masters - 2015/06/18 00:06:08 UTC

All certifications of paragliders and paraglider harnesses are a sham.
You mean like Emperor Bob's grass roots national hang gliding association which really does respect the free speech of its members?
Paragliders can collapse and kill their occupants. This fact makes any attempt at so-called "certification" a joke on its face.
Right. Because paraglider CAN collapse and kill their occupants it's totally fuckin' ludicrous to engineer and certify anything to positive G loading. Idiotic waste of time since your collapse death is a virtual certainty anyway.
Paragliding harnesses offer limited protection for falls from altitudes of no more than about 3 meters -- if the pilot is in a heads-up position.
That's totally fuckin' ridiculous. Hang gliding harnesses provide total protection for falls from altitudes of ten meters - if the pilot's in a head's-up position. For head's-down fifteen. Twenty if you're landing in a narrow dry riverbed with large rocks strewn all over the place - which you almost certainly are.
The vast majority of fatalities are collapse incidents.
Yeah Rick. Thanks for reminding us. It's been almost ten minutes since the last time you posted something about soaring parachute collapses.
Very often the helpless falling human is tumbling.
Like this one:

37-23223
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was right after his Rooney Link increased the safety of the towing operation?
Above 3 meters, the kinetic energy of the helpless falling human far exceeds any "protection" provided by the air/foam bladder seat.
How 'bout if he's wearing a mandatory Kuczewski helmet and tumbles such that he hits head first? Shouldn't he be OK then?
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Here is a velocity chart for 1 through 5 seconds of a helpless falling human.
Time (s) - Velocity (m/s)

1 - 09.8
2 - 19.6
3 - 29.4
4 - 39.2
5 - 49.0

At the end of the first second, the helpless falling human has traveled MORE than 3 meters - to the end of his so-called "protection."
Well fuck that. This is AMERICA and we don't use the goddam metric system. So after five seconds we're only dropping at 49.0 FEET per second. 33.4 miles per hour. Big fuckin' deal. 'Specially if you tumble head first with your Kuczewski helmet in a narrow dry riverbed with large rocks strewn all over the place.
If you are capable of plugging the numbers into the kinetic energy equation (low-information "pilots" are not able to do this)...
Fuck that, Rick. If I can't plug numbers into Navier-Stokes equations I'm simply not interested.
...three things becomes frighteningly obvious.

1) You need an airframe to minimize flying risk.
2) The paraglider Dead Man's Curve is no joke.
3) The one thousand, three hundred and twenty-one dead people that I know of who died on paragliders should have put more effort into the study of mathematics.
And if the vast majority of dead people in hang gliding had gotten Bachelor of Science degrees in Aeronautical and Astronautical Engineering they'd still be racking up lotsa airtime on the weekends 'cause they'd have all understood how totally harmless stalls are.
Now put a little child at the point of impact.
I always try to. They work really well to soften the impacts. And if they survive and they're boys you can have homosexual relationships with them. If they're girls... Some other kind of relationship. Heterosexual probably. But I'm just guessing here. I'll try the little pink ones in your first couple photos and get back to ya.
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Re: The Bob Show

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police were summoned again
Ben Reese - 2015/06/21 07:45:11 UTC

Bill,
This is a public site for a local news outlet. Ya ain't gonna vet the sources.
Irons in the fire are any park users who have knowledge of Bob games.
If it happens to be non flyers then it is even worse for our sport!
If general public thinks we are all a bunch of loons running off cliffs and crashing, getting arrested, going,to court and coming back with a camera and papers then it's bad for our sport!
Jon Orders taking a twenty-seven year old person of a varying age for a tandem thrill ride, skipping the hook-in check for the ten thousandth time, dropping her a thousand feet; Kelly Harrison taking an eleven year old person of a varying age for a tandem thrill ride, fucking up ninety-five percent of the options he had available to fuck up, slamming himself, his glider, his person of a varying age into the lakebed, falsified u$hPa "accident" report available only to official privileged information decimators... Not real problems for "OUR" sport. Certainly nothing in these worthy of any comment from a Ben Reese or Scott MacLeod.
It does not matter if Bob is legal in park or not...
Nah, fuck, this is u$hPa stuff. Since when did legality start having any place in anything we do?
He is looking for trouble
and yea know what?? He found it..
Yeah, if I were looking for trouble I'd certainly go to a public city park under the control of Mafia thugs knowing that it doesn't matter whether or not I'm totally legal.
Cuffed, stuffed and woken up!
Twice now and thats just to much...
Presumed and treated as guilty until proven innocent the first time and this time it doesn't matter in the slightest if there are any legal issues whatsoever. It's perfectly OK for anybody to be cuffed, stuffed, and woken up - shot in the back a few times if one is black - based upon a presumption that one is looking for something.

Too bad we didn't execute a lot more of your ancestors during and immediately after the Revolutionary War. Also too bad that Davis - also one of your genetic ilk - has fostered a culture so sleazy that you don't get immediately pounced on by every other Dedicated Sycophant and have your balls ripped off and shoved down your throat.

The more I see this sport tolerating stupid cowardly little shits like you and your allies and enablers the less I miss it and the sorrier I am that I ever started in it. What a sewer.
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Re: The Bob Show

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Jean Lake
Bill Cummings - 2015/06/19 16:49:56 UTC

Jean Lake -- a known preventable solution.
Keep those known preventable solutions coming, Bill. The more known these solutions are the better we'll be able to prevent them.
One year three months and twenty five days (12-05-2013) before the Jean Lake tandem tow platform accident resulting in two deaths (03-30-2015)...
It was the Twenty-Seventh, Bill. If you'd gotten there on the Thirtieth you'd have been three days too late. But, what the hell, your preventable solution wouldn't worked anyway.
...I reminded anyone that would click on my post about watching out for this hazard with "Step Towing."
Do try to stay on topic, Bill. The Jean Lake crash had shit to do with step towing - and not all that much to do with regular platform towing either. Way too "TYPICAL".
The lesson had been learned years before 2013 and I brought it up so as to not let the lesson be forgotten. Either the "instructor," at Jean Lake never came across this problem or ignored a simple solution that would have eliminated his and the "students," death.
He only had one "student" on that flight.
I'll try to link my 12-05-2013 warning and in the event I link it improperly check back later after Bob K has a chance to correct any screw up I may make.
Bob doesn't correct any screwups. Total respect for their historical sanctity. And when a Bob Show member screwup takes the life of another Bob Show member don't hold your breath waiting for Bob to even acknowledge that the inconvenience fatality even occurred.
After clicking on the link scroll way down into the quote until you find the red text. There you will find my solution that would have saved both victims.
http://ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1211&start=40#p12646
payout
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http://ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1211
payout
Re: payout step-tow-static also.
Bill Cummings - 2013/12/05 17:08:38 UTC
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Bullshit.

http://www.kitestrings.org/post8020.html#p8020
Due to lack of knowledge or disregard these deaths were preventable.
If you're advocating lack of knowledge and disregard as life preserving strategies you're definitely posting to the right crowds.
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/06/22 06:23:40 UTC

USHPA's fear of criticism has kept them from having a forum where pilots like Bill could share information with pilots like Kelly Harrison.
1. u$hPa's primary fear is of accountability.

2. And Bob Kuczewski's fears of competence, losing popularity, alienating total fucking dickheads like Rick Masters has kept him from ever accepting so much as a draft set of SOPs with any actual STANDARDS. Everything's gotta be a SUGGESTION or OPINION - preferably compromised to make all the other people of varying ages in the sandbox happy - that everybody's totally free to totally disregard.

3. How's my expulsion "hearing" coming along, Bob? Think Tad might possibly have some information worth SHARING with "PILOTS" like Kelly Harrison that might have made a positive difference in Kelly's flight with his student of a varying age? Never mind, I forgot you want The Bob Show to be a safe place for people of varying ages to visit. You don't really give a flying fuck if they get pile driven into the desert, you just don't ever want them to experience the horrors of communicating with Tad or being clipped into any kind of glider without a one-size-fits-all helmet buckled on - like the one that almost saved Kelly's skydiving student's life.

4. "Pilots" like Kelly Harrison don't give flying fucks about anything anybody has to say on any forums. He had a nice payout system, 'cause there's no way not to if ya wanna sell tandem thrill rides, supplemented with a nice simulator system for the one percent of the clientele who might have an actual interest in learning to fly. Pretty much everything else in his system was crap that had always worked before when everything was going right. Somebody find me a single post from him in ANY thread on ANY forum ANYWHERE EVER.
This is yet another disservice they've done to the sport.
Whereas The Bob Show as all about really honoring the free speech of its members!
I'll try to link my 12-05-2013 warning and in the event I link it improperly check back later after Bob K has a chance to correct any screw up I may make.
It looks like you're getting the hang of making links Bill!! Image
Now if only he could get the hang of knowing what the fuck he's talking about and making actual sense.
Due to lack of knowledge or disregard these deaths were preventable.
That sentence makes sense to you, Bob? No comment?
FYI, thanks to Tad's web site, we can get to see the report:
Jean Dry Lakebed Accident Report and Analysis

...
1. This isn't "Tad's web site". Tad didn't found it and there's shared power here. Has been since Day One, Post One. That's something that The Bob Show has to achieve to any degree whatsoever in the near five years of its existence.

(Also like to remind everybody that Bob has had full member access to Kite Strings restored since 2014/11/22 03:30:58 UTC - for the past seven months.)

2. We were able to see the report three weeks prior to your announcement that we were able to see the report. But so far no Davis, Jack, Bob Show active flyer has had the guts to quote anything from it for the purpose of improving the safety of the sport its cynical architects/perpetrators are pretending it's supposed to have.
Bill Cummings - 2015/06/22 09:46:09 UTC

I to would like to thank Tad. E., for posting:
Jean Dry Lakebed Accident Report and Analysis.
No thanks necessary. Really ENJOYED doing that.
So Nobody...
Be careful not to refer to him as "Steve". We don't wanna undermine Emperor Bob's pretense for having him locked and crippled down in his Basement since 2012/01/13 17:30:22 UTC.
when you are back here please let Tad know that his posting of the analysis is greatly appreciated.
1. By whom? What good is it doing? What are we gonna start seeing being done better relevant to this clusterfuck?
2. You don't think Tad's constantly monitoring discussions relevant to the important shit that's going on in this sport?
3. What's stopping you from registering at Kite Strings, conveying this appreciation yourself, maybe engaging in some rational discussion here?
Edit: 03:50
I see where the date of the accident may have been on the 27 and not the 30th as I had posted above.
MAY have been on the 27th? Most important crash in the history of hang gliding, splattered all over the mainstream media as events unfolded that afternoon and evening, documented by the track log included in the u$hPa report as having started rolling at 2015/03/27 21:39:42 UTC and abruptly ending at 2015/03/27 21:43:49 UTC. But we're not really sure whether it was on the Friday before the weekend or the Monday after?
With no objection I would like to have Bob K verify the correct date and make the correction to my earlier post.
If you were over here on Kite Strings you wouldn't hafta make that request to your Lord and Master. You'd have the power to edit your own posts - however and whenever you felt. I'd probably even make you a Moderator and/or give you my password so's you could do it seamlessly because, while a lot of your understanding of towing is totally wacko, I consider you to be an honest and honorable individual and somebody I'd trust on the upwind end of my string.
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Re: The Bob Show

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Winning Public Access to Federal Airspace
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/07/04 20:45:42 UTC

Many of the USHPA proponents say that it's better to be "self-regulated" than for the FAA to step in.

But would the FAA ever have removed a pilot's license because he testified in court against a reckless paragliding school? Would the FAA ever have removed a pilot's license because he spoke out about unsafe practices to his local government? Would the FAA ever have removed a pilot's license for filming an instructor demonstrating unsafe practices?

The reality is that the FAA would never hold the kind of "kangaroo court" that USHPA has held. USHPA has demonstrated that they would rather silence people speaking out than correct actual problems. I hope the FAA understands that USHPA's "self-regulation" is actually self cover up.
Many of the USHPA proponents say that it's better to be "self-regulated" than for the FAA to step in.
ALL u$hPa proponents are total scumbags.
But would the FAA ever have removed a pilot's license because he testified in court against a reckless paragliding school? Would the FAA ever have removed a pilot's license because he spoke out about unsafe practices to his local government?
I don't recall you getting the slightest bit bent out of shape about MY pilot's license becoming totally useless to me - along with my glider and all my gear - about half a year before I even dropped a letter in the mail to the FAA regarding blatantly illegal and lethal aerotowing practices which were putting my own life at considerable risk every time I took off.
Would the FAA ever have removed a pilot's license for filming an instructor demonstrating unsafe practices?
I dunno, Bob. Why don't you post a video of an instructor demonstrating practices which were illegal and/or in violation of u$hPa SOPs or, failing that, that can be documented EVER to have caused anybody to get bruised or scratched ANYWHERE? Then maybe we'll be able to better address your question.
The reality is that the FAA would never hold the kind of "kangaroo court" that USHPA has held.
How are things shaping up for my Bob Show kangaroo court, Bob?
USHPA has demonstrated that they would rather silence people speaking out than correct actual problems.
Fuck the FAA. They didn't lift a finger to curtail all the carnage we were experiencing almost weekly from people being clipped into wings without their helmets on. Think of the families! Think of the PEOPLE OF VARYING AGES!!!
I hope the FAA understands that USHPA's "self-regulation" is actually self cover up.
No shit, Bob. The FAA is totally in bed with u$hPa's cover-up machinery. Motherfuckers have been criminally negligent in their oversight of hang gliding since the beginning of time. So when a fifty-five year old tandem "instructor" slams himself and his eleven year old skydiving "student" into the lakebed their gonna prominently announce that they're gonna be assisting in the investigation and that assistance is always gonna end as soon as they discover the aircraft had no tail number.

And ain't it great the way the elite division of the same kangaroo court that voted unanimously for your expulsion...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1629
Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey
Bob Kuczewski - 2014/11/30 01:13:45 UTC

By the way, here's a response that I just got from Rich Hass (USHPA's President):
Rich Hass with subject: USHPA EC votes to require helmets when clipped in wrote: Bob,

You should be pleased to know; earlier this week, the EC voted to amend the safety requirements in SOP 12-01.05 to require members to wear a helmet whenever they are hooked into their glider. It will take a few days to get the SOP updated and posted on the USHPA website. USHPA will make reference to the updated requirement in its next members newsletter.

Thanks,
Rich Hass
...ramrodded the Bob Kuczewski Mandatory Ground Handling Helmet Regulation permanently down everybody's throat with ZERO:
- in the way of incident reports indicating the slightest need
- input from anybody operating and/or instructing in the field
- call for discussion
- advance notice to the membership
- opportunity for anyone with any objections or concerns to voice them

And that will NEVER come off the books - regardless of the number of additional unhooked launches and how much heat exhaustion it causes. 'Cause u$hPa knows that somewhere down the road twenty or thirty years from now when some bozo finally figures out a way to get his helmetless brain mushed doing something moronic with a gust front coming through the resulting vegetable's attorney will have a field day with the fact that u$hPa rescinded the SOP.

This is why:
With each flight, demonstrates a method of establishing that the pilot is hooked in just prior to launch.
is still on the books. Biggest mistake the Association ever made. No other country has an SOP remotely like it. ALL of them are various forms of:

http://www.chgpa.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1152
Bill Priday's death
Cragin Shelton - 2005/10/03 15:13:27 UTC

You are not hooked in until after the hang check.
Last half-assed effort u$hPa ever made to do anything decent. They refuse to implement it 'cause that would make them vulnerable for never having implemented it and can't rescind it, see above, so they use dickheads like you, Ryan, Matt, McKenzie, Greblo to argue that "just prior to launch" means anything anybody wants it to mean and that any check ACTUALLY made just prior to launch is both totally useless and insanely dangerous.

Took u$hPa four decades to degrade to the depths of corruption and hypocrisy we see now. And you're STARTING ten miles south of that point.
Zack C - 2011/12/17 14:56:03 UTC

I don't know whether you were genuinely doing what you felt was the right thing to do or just looking for convenient justification to finally can Tad, but I believe your actions were inappropriate and set a terrible precedent for your organization.
Can't begin to tell you just how happy and proud I am to be the precedent which makes it impossible for you and your pet lunatics to be able to accomplish anything of any actual substance or decency.

P.S. There was ZERO chance that a clumsy transparent hack like you was gonna be able to blackmail me into resigning in order to spend more time with my family - but can you IMAGINE how much I'd be kicking myself now if we'd parted "amicably" as "friends" and agreed to go our separate ways?
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Re: The Bob Show

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Hey Bob...

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42429
police were summoned again
Orion Price - 2015/07/06 17:53:21 UTC

Straub,
Can you just perma ban both faust and reese?
They rarely fly, Both cause much drama. They are just a pollution of this place.
Let's talk about interesting flying related subjects and not about political drama.
Your:

http://www.shga.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3840
[TIL] About Tad Eareckson

buddy is taking time off from his busy weak link testing schedule to try to get the discussion about your Torrey / San Diego / u$hPa situation shut down and one of your closest friends and most important allies permanently silenced.

Any comment?

Maybe you can reunite everybody in a discussion about Tad's toxic personality and why eventually (for reasons that you won't fully disclose here) it became necessary to ask him to leave the US Hawks forum.
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Re: The Bob Show

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Hey Bob...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1563
Platform Launching (PL) Draft suggestions needed
Bob Kuczewski - 2014/06/06 17:21:51 UTC

I also like that this discussion emphasizes that breaking a weak link is something that can be practiced - just like we practice stalls - so we understand how to handle them and to not be afraid of them. I had a terrifying stall experience with my instructor when I was learning to fly airplanes back in the 70s. For a long time I feared getting close to stall. As long as I feared stalls, I was not spending much time getting comfortable with them, and that didn't make me a better pilot. So there's a lot to be said for safely learning to handle the inevitable rather than trying to come up with some way to avoid the inevitable.
Nice job Bill !!!! ImageImageImageImageImage
If stalls are so fucking harmless then how come Bobby Bailey...

http://ozreport.com/9.008
2005 Worlds
Davis Straub - 2005/01/10

As he took off his left wing was dragging. Bobby Bailey, the best tow pilot in the business, moved to the right into get further into the wind, and Rob got his left wing up and flying as he lined up behind Bobby.
...the best tow pilot in the business, with only one documented glider kill on one of his tows, and...

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24846
Is this a joke ?
Jim Rooney - 2011/08/26 08:24:31 UTC

Bobby's a fucking genius when it comes to this shit.
...recognized by the second best tow pilot in the business with an extremely keen intellect as a fucking genius when it comes to this shit...

http://ozreport.com/3.066
Weaklinks
Davis Straub - 1999/06/06

During the US Nationals I wrote a bit about weaklinks and the gag weaklinks that someone tied at Quest Air. A few days after I wrote about them, Bobby Bailey, designer and builder of the Bailey-Moyes Dragon Fly tug, approached me visibly upset about what I and James Freeman had written about weaklinks. He was especially upset that I had written that I had doubled my weaklink after three weaklinks in a row had broken on me.

I told him that I would be happy to publish anything that he wrote about weaklinks, but I never received anything from him or anyone else at Quest.

A few weeks later I was speaking with Rhett Radford at Wallaby Ranch about weaklinks and the issue of more powerful engines, and he felt that stronger weaklinks (unlike those used at Wallaby or Quest) were needed. He suggested between five and ten pounds of additional breaking strength.

To compensate for the greater power of the 619 engine that Rhett has on his tug, he deliberately flew it at less than full power when taking off or in anything other than absolutely smooth conditions. He started doing this after he noticed that pilots towing behind his more powerful tug were experiencing increased weaklink breakage.

A number of the pilots at the US Nationals were using "strong links" after they became fed up with the problems there. These "strong links" were made with paraglider line and were meant to fool the ground crew into thinking that the pilot had a weaklink.

The problem with strong links (neither Bobby Bailey nor I was aware at the time of the US Nationals that pilots were doing this) is that they endanger the tug pilot. If the hang glider pilot goes into a lock out, and doesn't break the weaklink (because there isn't one), they can stall the tug. I assume that Bobby Bailey won't hear about the use of strong links at the US Nationals until he reads it here.
...is absolutely terrified of a Tad-O-Link overriding the front end weak link, negating his ability to...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7509/15659143120_a9aae8f7bd_o.jpg
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...squeeze the lever not within easy reach on the joystick, and leave the tug like:

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or:

http://ozreport.com/forum/files/2_264.jpg
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(Note: Two Dragonfly pilots were harmed in the making of those photos by the harmless stalls, one of them (guess which) so harmed that he would never walk again.

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31052
Poll on weaklinks
Jim Rooney - 2013/03/05 19:42:58 UTC

So, a stronger weaklink allows you to achieve higher AOAs... but you see high AOAs coupled with a loss of power as *the* problem? So you want something that will allow you to achieve even higher AOAs?
Are you NUTS?
Why is the best tow pilot in the business who's a fucking genius when it comes to this shit and gets more airtime in a month than the combined lifetime totals of everyone on The Bob Show and Kite Strings so terrified of harmless stalls?

If he's wrong and you're right don't we have a really big problem?
If you're wrong and he's right don't we have a really big problem?

Explain to me just how this sport doesn't have a really big and really deadly problem that doesn't need to be resolved by large numbers of key people being unequivocally denounced immediately yesterday.
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Re: The Bob Show

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http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42429
police were summoned again
Graeme Henderson - 2015/07/07 21:39:04 UTC

Bill,

Hide and twist it as much as you like. The very act of filming like that is provocative, Bob is cunning, he knows how to push buttons and he is doing it to get the guys school closed. The longer this goes on the less respect I have for you, you're starting to become another Bob, spinning the stories he invents to make his nastiness look like innocence. I regard Bob as one of the lowest of the bottom feeders, down there with ARP, Faust and the super sleazy and totally dishonest Francis Melvin Rogallo.

Think about what you are doing Bill, this whole reaction to some minor incidents...
And total non incidents.
...is so over the top you make all HG pilots look petty and callous. For this we are to believe the USHPA needs to be split in two, for this the idiot got kicked out of the USHPA. You all look like a bunch of silly girls screaming at a spider on the far side of the room.
Grow up, wake up, and piss Bob K off. Remember, the problem is Bob, or more accurately it's Bob's pea sized brain and his supersized ego that are the problem. Get rid of Bob and any issues can be dealt with sanely.

Cheers,
Graeme
Factions:

- Bob Show
Scream Zack and Alec child endangerment nonstop at tops of lungs incessantly with a fair dose of Shannon and David midair thrown in, mostly ignore the tons of LEGITIMATELY outrageous atrocities the gliderport thugs pull, totally ignore the fact that Bob's a dangerous megahypocritical asshole.

- u$hPa
The gliderport people are just regular reasonable decent folk working for the betterment of the sport, the fact that Bob gets kicked off of forums and out of u$hPa and arrested every time he sets foot onto Torrey is blindingly obvious proof of guilt of whatever anyone feels like saying, totally ignore the kind of megahypocritical bullshit that he pulls with Steve Davy and T** at K*** S****** which is EXACTLY the same bullshit Bob screams bloody murder about when u$hPa faction motherfuckers do it to him..

- Fairness
Both the Bob Show and u$hPa factions are loathsome groups of motherfuckers who deserve to be shot down in the street on sight but issues need to be dealt with openly, honestly, in accordance with fair establish procedures - out of a value of decency and 'cause if they're not then nobody's safe from anything. That faction appears to be limited to the judge, Tad, Steve, hopefully a few other Kite Strings people.

PATHETIC ratio of the last to the other two. But, big surprise, about what one would expect when looking at the numbers of individuals standing up against:
- hang checkers and Aussie Methodists
- Davis Links
- easily reachable bent pin releases
- Birrenators
- spot stunt landings
- the excellent book, Towing Aloft, by Dennis Pagen and Bill Bryden

Kinda cool watching loathsome groups of motherfuckers locked into an eternal war of megahypocritical shit slinging. No honesty; respect for truth, fairness, fundamental decency / No possibility of resolution and progress. Mutual Assured Destruction - a tiny ray of hope for Faction Three.
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