You are NEVER hooked in.

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Re: You are NEVER hooked in.

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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25963
Woman killed in B.C. hang gliding fall.
Jason Boehm - 2014/09/30 15:19:11 UTC

because michael spends his life looking for accidents and rehashing old ones...
You mean the way people like Robert V. Wills and Doug Hildreth used to do before the sport was totally taken over by commercially motivated total fucking dickheads?
...for some unknown reason
What COULD that reason POSSIBLY be?

Hey. Total fucking dickhead. michael started that thread 2012/04/29 20:14:04 UTC - the day after the "accident". Currently 222 posts, 35048 hits - a bit under 158 hits per post. If it doesn't interest you try mustering all of your intellectual reserves and figuring out some way to not read it - asshole.
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Re: You are NEVER hooked in.

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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25963
Woman killed in B.C. hang gliding fall.
Brian Scharp - 2014/09/30 16:54:28 UTC

michael170 seems convinced that the important lessons have not been learned. Maybe there's someone new to the topic that could learn something. Do we want to get to a point were there is no place to openly discuss things of this nature?

http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/MulgrewFatalhangglidingcasehighlightsinsufficientcivilwrongfuldeathlaws/9785015/story.html
Ian Mulgrew: Fatal hang-gliding case highlights insufficient civil wrongful-death laws
Ian Mulgrew - 2014/04/28 19:23
Vancouver Sun

They are accused of "mandating and/or promoting and/or encouraging hang glider operators to conceal and/or not openly discuss hang gliding incidents that result in injury and/or death ..."
Dave Pendzick - 2014/09/30 17:00:51 UTC

Learn something new!?!? Like what exactly? Remembering to hook in??? If this is new information to someone then they probably shouldnt be hang gliding. This thread is eleven pages long & over a year old... THE DEAD HORSE HAS BEEN BEATEN BEYOND RECOGNITION!!! DROP IT!
Learn something new!?!?
Nah, learn something that the 0.01 percent of the people in hang gliding who have functional brains have been doing since the Seventies and has been on the books as a regulation and almost universally ignored for a third of a century.
Like what exactly?
With each flight, demonstrates a method of establishing that the pilot is hooked in just prior to launch.
Remembering to hook in???
Yeah, that was Jon Orders' game plan - the one taught to him and required by the HPAC fuckin' assholes. Lenami's life ended, his ruined.
If this is new information to someone then they probably shouldnt be hang gliding.
I think the total douchebags who think this is a viable game plan totally should.

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I NEVER get tired of accumulating statistics. I just don't think they should be posting. I've got a forum that discourages participation by total douchebags. I've banned three of them and I don't have any problems like that.
This thread is eleven pages long & over a year old...
Yeah...
- I'd call it two years, five months, one day. Great math skills.
- The victim on this one was only 27 years old. That's more than enough discussion on the incident and subject.
THE DEAD HORSE HAS BEEN BEATEN BEYOND RECOGNITION!!!
Yeah...

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24846
Is this a joke ?
Marc Fink - 2011/08/28 21:11:09 UTC

I once locked out on an early laminarST aerotowing. went past vertical and past 45 degrees to the line of pull-- and the load forces were increasing dramatically. The weaklink blew and the glider stalled--needed every bit of the 250 ft agl to speed up and pull out. I'm alive because I didn't use a stronger one.

So how about wheels and single hang straps (seeing how we've exhumed the dead horses)?
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30971
Zach Marzec
Kinsley Sykes - 2013/02/11 17:46:12 UTC

Because this has been beaten to death - google Tad Eareckson and try to read the mind-numbing BS. Most of the folks who have been towing for decades have worked this stuff out.

The reason for the vehemence of the response is they pile on to any AT accident, with no knowledge of the cause, and trot out the, if only he had a strong weaklink, nothing would have happened.

It's fine to want to work on better solutions to make us all safer by improving technology, it's ugly and inhuman to use the death of a really nice guy to advance your point... in case it wasn't obvious I agree with Bart and Jim, and no it's not a lack of english comprehension - he said there would have been a different outcome with a stronger weaklink.
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=31717
Weak link?
Davis Straub - 2014/08/20 19:48:26 UTC

Many of us are now using 200 lb test line from Cortland.
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=31747
Lockout
Davis Straub - 2014/09/01 15:22:41 UTC

I can tell you that I fly with a 200lb weaklink on one side of my 750lb pro tow bridle. I am happy with it.
*BEATEN* TO *DEATH*!
DROP IT!
Fuck you, douchebag. Who the hell do you think you are to tell other people what they can and can't be talking about? You're not even smart enough to figure out how not to read topics in which you have neither interest nor capacity to understand.
2014/09/30 17:06:15 - 3 thumbs up - Paul Hurless
Fuck you too, Paul. But that goes without saying.
Brian Scharp - 2014/09/30 17:41:17 UTC

The person who died in this thread was new to hang gliding.
Probably new to skydiving as well.
There could be someone other than yourself who might benefit from the topic.
Motherfucker's incapable from benefitting from anything ever written on this topic. And who the hell would want him to anyway?
Really, what is the big deal? No one is forcing you to participate.
Someone should force him NOT to participate.
They are accused of "mandating and/or promoting and/or encouraging hang glider operators to conceal and/or not openly discuss hang gliding incidents that result in injury and/or death ..."
If Lenami had been tuned into the Eleni Zeri carbon copy from nine years and a day shy of a month prior it's highly unlikely that she'd come up so prominently in a Google search for her first name. But DAVE858 doesn't want anybody discussing any disasters for more than a week or two following impact.
miguel - 2014/09/30 18:05:52 UTC

Until we stop launching unhooked, the message is needed.
No. Until we START being AFRAID of launching unhooked - at the only time it matters - and START TEACHING, DOING, LOOKING FOR, REQUIRING, ENFORCING HOOK-IN CHECKS.
I watched an unhooked launch from a small distance. Pilot...
Nah. A PILOT is someone who knows what the fuck he's doing AND is connected to a glider. Otherwise he's just a pedestrian.
...had all sorts of help launching.
Not really. More like enabling.
The pilot got roughed up a bit and the glider made a perfect wheel landing on the side of the hill.
Every fuckin' asshole involved in that one should've had his rating suspended.
Complacency can be deadly.
No. This is not a complacency issue - just like it's not a remembering issue. This is a training, IQ, mindset, procedure issue.

Nobody's EVER been COMPLACENT making a carrier landing 'cause it's pretty goddam obvious what can happen to one if he fucks it up. It SHOULD be goddam obvious what can happen as a consequence of this particular fuckup and how easily and commonly it's made. But for 99.99 percent of the douchebags who typically fly hang gliders...

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...it's totally beyond the range of their comprehension. COMPLETELY UNBELIEVABLE!
Rob Kells - 2005/12

My partners (Steve Pearson and Mike Meier) and I have over 25,000 hang glider flights between us and have managed (so far) to have hooked in every time. I also spoke with test pilots Ken Howells and Peter Swanson about their methods (another 5000 flights). Not one of us regularly uses either of the two most popular methods outlined above. Each of us agrees that it is not a particular method, but rather the fear of launching unhooked that makes us diligent to be sure we are hooked in every time before starting the launch run.
You got the right mindset complacency is eliminated from the equation as a side effect.

And if we can't become fairly complacent after the critical shit is behind us for the time being there's little to no point in hang gliding. We can't enjoy it if we can't relax and look around a bit when not much is going on. I'm a huge fan of complacency the vast majority of the time in hang gliding. That's the payoff we get for having gotten our shit together and maxed out our safety margins.

And sustained noncomplacency is beyond the realm of human capacity anyway. So you might as well just ration it out where it does some good.
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Re: You are NEVER hooked in.

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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25963
Woman killed in B.C. hang gliding fall.
Jason Boehm - 2014/09/30 18:44:11 UTC

hes also convinced the only way to land is onwheels...and spot landings are the devil..... Image
1. Try using the shift and space keys more and the period key less.

2. Funny you should mention landings just now...

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=31884
Sad Loss to the Entire Free-Flight Community
NMERider - 2014/09/30 16:25:19 UTC

http://www.rmhpa.org/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5545
"Jedi" Joe Julik - Gone But Never Forgotten
Tiffany Smith - 2014/09/30 15:28

It is with a very heavy heart that I share the news of our beloved Jedi-Joe's [Joseph Julik] passing. Even as I write this I still can't believe that he's gone....so surreal....so sudden....so unfair. He meant a lot to a lot of people, spreading smiles and laughter wherever he went, would give you the shirt off his back, cook 3 meals a day for an army of many, hug you like he meant it.....this is such a terrible loss.

Joe had been at Whitewater, MN all weekend, towing and flying his happy head off. Sunday night he made a deal to purchase a Topless glider.....he was landing his first flight on it Monday morning when he stalled after transition and couldn't recover....landed hard.

Joe was instrumental in Fly Week....we couldn't have done 2012 or 2014 without him. But more than anything, he was instrumental in our lives and in our hearts. He was like family to us, and one of the best friends Larry has ever had....and like a second husband to me, we always joked about that. He brought so much joy to our lives, and he will be hugely missed.

Memorial services will be in MN, though we're not sure exactly when yet. Larry and I will be heading that way soon.....I will keep this thread posted in the event anyone wants to make the trek.

RIP to one of the best guys this planet has ever known......
Brian Scharp - 2014/09/30 19:25:56 UTC

Another topic that should be able to be openly discussed.
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=12682
Landing on your feet (for AEROTOW)- So Dangerous
Jack Axaopoulos - 2009/06/29 14:26:26 UTC

OMG!!! You dont even have wheels!!?!?!?!? Image
YOURE GONNA DIE FOR SUUUUREE!!!! Image
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I have a brilliant idea. People who cant land for sh*t.... LEARN TO LAND Image That way when a weak link breaks on you, ITS A NON-ISSUE. Genius huh??? Image
Jason Boehm - 2014/09/30 19:36:01 UTC

he isn't interested in discussion, hes sick, he literally came back to a dead thread and posted a photo of a dead woman
You mean like the ones over here?:

http://www.rememberinglena.com/about/
Remembering Lena

Looks pretty alive to me. Of course that was BEFORE she decided to experience the joy and thrill of free flight. Here's one of her leaving the LZ at the end of that day:

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Reminds me a bit of the one from Quest where Shannon Moon had just wrapped up her practice for landing in narrow dry riverbeds with large rocks strewn all over the place:

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that doesn't contribute anything, it serves no fucking purpose whatsoever other than him getting his rocks off

its disgusting
Whoa!

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=30199
Incident - 2013/06/16
Paul Hurless - 2014/05/11 03:19:34 UTC

It must be self-loathing because of your realization that you will never have the close, "personal" relationship with your man crush, Tad. You're far too old. You lack those pre-pubescent qualities that he finds so desirable. Why else would you spend so much time attempting to emulate his disdain and hatred towards every hang glider pilot. Good luck with that.
And here I was thinking he was a fag. Pick one - douchbags.

P.S. Ya know where the last close-up imagery of living Lenami spent a few days before the BC police recovered it?
2014/09/30 19:39:31 UTC - 3 thumbs up - Don Arsenault
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Re: You are NEVER hooked in.

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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25963
Woman killed in B.C. hang gliding fall.
Jason Boehm - 2014/09/30 15:19:11 UTC

because michael spends his life looking for accidents and rehashing old ones for some unknown reason
2014/09/30 16:22:23 UTC - 3 thumbs up - Paul Hurless
2014/10/02 04:09:41 UTC - Sink This! -- michael170
Jason Boehm - 2014/09/30 18:44:11 UTC

hes also convinced the only way to land is onwheels...and spot landings are the devil..... Image
2014/10/02 04:08:56 UTC - Sink This! -- michael170
Jason Boehm - 2014/09/30 19:36:01 UTC

he isn't interested in discussion, hes sick, he literally came back to a dead thread and posted a photo of a dead woman
that doesn't contribute anything, it serves no fucking purpose whatsoever other than him getting his rocks off
its disgusting
2014/09/30 19:39:31 UTC - 3 thumbs up - Don Arsenault
2014/10/02 04:08:23 UTC - Sink This! -- michael170
Jason Boehm - 2014/10/02 15:25:22 UTC

i rest my case, he didn't discuss anything, just came back and thumbs downed everything..... Image
1. Tell me what you DISCUSSED. Tell me what you've said that's contributed anything positive to this issue.

2. He didn't come back and thumbs down EVERYTHING. He came back and thumbs downed just your semiliterate rot. Tell me why it should be dignified with anything better.
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Re: You are NEVER hooked in.

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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25963
Woman killed in B.C. hang gliding fall.
Jason Boehm - 2014/10/02 15:25:22 UTC

i rest my case, he didn't discuss anything, just came back and thumbs downed everything..... Image
2014/10/02 17:45:57 UTC - Sink This! -- michael170
Brad Barkley - 2014/10/02 17:44:31 UTC

What do you expect...he's one of Tad's bitches.
On a forum dominated by Jack's bitches.
2014/10/02 17:46:19 UTC - Sink This! -- michael170
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Re: You are NEVER hooked in.

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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25963
Woman killed in B.C. hang gliding fall.
Brian Scharp - 2014/10/02 18:57:19 UTC

It's not uncommon for the family members of those who have experienced a tragedy to hope others may learn from their loss and not have to endure the same.
It's virtually nonexistent in hang gliding. Find a family member ever participating in any effort to get any easily fixable problem like this easily fixed. Lenami's family mainly wants revenge - on a lot of the right people for almost entirely the wrong reasons.
I doubt they would be offended by the use of a photo to keep a topic alive and possibly reaching someone new.
I have zero doubt. But I don't really give a flying fuck one way or the other. It's OUR problem to fix. In any case do a Google image search for "Lenami". What's it matter?
I can't say the same for some of the comments being made here.
Paul Hurless - 2014/10/02 19:25:42 UTC

There was no discussion, just his typical posting of someone else's misfortune.
There's been TONS of discussion.

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=31781
Another hang check lesson
Alan Deikman - 2014/09/23 19:47:06 UTC

For my part I will just refer you to the classic Tad Eareckson essay which I call "the gun is always loaded" which is a bit overworked but probably all you will ever need to read regarding FTHI. A lot of people will find it gores their particular sacred Ox, but I have never seen anyone point out a flaw in his logic.
But you total fuckin' dickheads totally refuse to implement the obvious, easy, no cost fix.
He's Tad's conduit to the .org.
He does what he wants. I don't have his balls in a vice.
He parrots that psychopathic shit stain as if he is the one true source of the correct and only way to hang glide.
The way you "parrot" the psychopathic shit stain Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney, the Patron Saint of 130 Pound Greenspot, assuring us that that flavor of fishing line is the only proven and acceptable aerotow lockout protector and inconveniencer?

And how 'bout your little flock of Aussie Methodists over there?

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=13359
Today was a bad day!
Mike Bomstad - 2009/08/26 04:21:15 UTC

The harness is part of the aircraft... end of story.
(Just because it's easy to remove, does not mean it should be. Don't choose the path of least resistance)
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As someone else mentioned, a couple of those beliefs are that landings should only be made on wheels...
Quote michael170 or T** at K*** S****** ever saying that.
...and spot landings are bad.
1. How come I didn't hear any contradictions to:

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=21088
What you wish you'd known then?
Doug Doerfler - 2011/03/02 05:24:44 UTC

Nothing creates carnage like declaring a spot landing contest.
2. Nah. Spot landings are totally fucking...

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...AWESOME! I NEVER get tired of watching the videos!
Tad was run off of every other hang gliding web site for good reason.
He was consistently mopping the floor with off the scale stupid douchebags such as yourself.
Now he has only a private soap box to preach from.
And seeing how much misery that brings to you fills my heart with pure joy.
Expressing an opinion, as I am doing here, is one thing, making pronouncements about the only way things should be done and that doing them any other way is wrong is something else entirely.
Yeah... So what's your point? If you go to the HGMA website you'll find there are pronouncements that there's only one way to certify a hang glider for airworthiness. That's how come we no longer have gliders plummeting out of the sky for no good reason. And NOBODY EVER complains about those specs or pushes for getting them dumbed down so's we'll have better and cheaper gliders to fly.
Tad openly states that he hopes that people who don't agree with his insanity will get injured or killed.
Nah, Tad's just TOTALLY COOL with hook-in check skippers, Rooney Linkers, easy reachers, pin benders, pro toads, spot landers, flare timing perfecters, opinion formers doing their bits to improve the gene pool.
Anyone who identifies with him should be treated with the same contempt.
By you, Jason, your ilk? Bring it on. Renews my confidence that I'm on the right track.
Does Michael170 actually fly?
What kind of shithead gives a rat's ass?
Or is he just a used-to-be who uses the .org as a place to vent his frustrations?
Like you're doing now?

There aren't a whole lot of people in this sport worth shit or better who don't vent their frustrations. Or would you argue that things are all just so wonderful that there's no need for that sort of thing?
Dennis Cavagnaro - 2014/10/02 20:18:23 UTC

As fellow flyers have we learned anything new?
I'm not one of your FELLOW flyers, motherfucker.
I don't think so. I have always thought the one of the purposes of this site was to expose hang gliding as a exciting healthy activity.
1. That only kills one participant per thousand per year and mangles who the fuck knows how many 'cause USHGA has totally gutted its accident reporting system.

2. Then your welcome to expose it as such. Same way tobacco company executives used to present chain smoking as an exciting healthy activity during commercial breaks on children's television shows.
When analysis reaches obsession it leads to people being turned off.
Well then, I guess hang gliding must not be as exciting and healthy an activity is it's being cracked up to be.
Tad sucked...
SUCKED?! I STILL suck. Ask anybody.
he sucked as a HGing pilot and then reinvented himself as a sucky paraglider pilot.
Wrong Tad, dude. This on ALWAYS does hook-in checks. That one NEVER did.
F him and lets not replicate his negative views on flying.
Fuck both of us.
Sad accident, mistakes made, we know the mistakes....lets move on.
And keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting better results.

Move on, Dennis. Nobody's forcing you to participate in or read this thread.
michael170 - 2014/10/02 20:19:06 UTC

Those interested can read about Lenami here:
http://www.rememberinglena.com/about/
They posted photos of a dead woman. DISGUSTING!

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Re: You are NEVER hooked in.

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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25963
Woman killed in B.C. hang gliding fall.
Dennis Cavagnaro - 2014/10/02 20:18:23 UTC

As fellow flyers have we learned anything new?

I don't think so. I have always thought the one of the purposes of this site was to expose hang gliding as a exciting healthy activity.

When analysis reaches obsession it leads to people being turned off.

Tad sucked...he sucked as a HGing pilot and then reinvented himself as a sucky paraglider pilot. F him and lets not replicate his negative views on flying.

Sad accident, mistakes made, we know the mistakes....lets move on.
2014/10/03 01:19:36 UTC - 3 thumbs up - Paul Hurless
Oh good... One total moron being endorsed by another total moron.

https://www.ushpa.aero/member_directory.asp
USHPA - Members Only - Member Directory

Log in, just punch in "Tad" - don't even need to do the fucked up spelling of my last name.
Tad Eareckson - 32674 - 2009/08/31 - H4 - 1991/12/17 - Santos Mendoza - AT FL PA VA AWCL CL FSL RLF TUR XC
Must've been a REALLY sucky paraglider pilot.

My paragliding experience...
- 1992/05/24 - A few practice launches in the Hyner LZ.
- 1993/05/10 - Tandem truck tow launched sled run with Alan Chuculate at Currituck.

I've gotta be the single most hated individual in the history of hang gliding - probably the only person ever blacklisted out of it. And still no one's commented that I was NEVER *ANY* kind of paraglider pilot. And I NEVER sucked as a hang glider pilot. Did my share of stupid shit but not repeatedly expecting better results.

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=6644
Tad ***** - anti-HG agenda revealed

Currently at the bottom of Page 6 in Jack's Basement.
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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25963
Woman killed in B.C. hang gliding fall.
michael170 - 2014/10/04 05:38:45 UTC

I think you're confusing Tad Hurst with Tad Eareckson, Dennis.
Dennis Cavagnaro - 2014/10/04 12:43:22 UTC

You're right, I stand corrected.
And don't bother apologizing to T** at K*** S******, Dennis. He's used to being pissed all over by mainstream douchebags - so what's another bladder's worth in the swimming pool really matter?

And all you other Jack Show douchebags who knew he was talking about the other Tad, knew that that couldn't possibly be this Tad, or just took him at his word without asking for any supporting evidence... Y'all can go fuck yourselves too.
2014/10/03 01:19:36 UTC - 3 thumbs up - Paul Hurless
Any comment, Paul?
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Woman killed in B.C. hang gliding fall.
Ian Duffy - 2014/10/04 22:32:10 UTC
Sydney/Penang

Simply do a hang check and don't get in your harness until it is connected to your gilder.
Get fucked.
the pilot involved is still working?
More than the passenger is.
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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=811
FTHI
Rick Masters - 2011/10/26 23:07:48 UTC

At an Owens Valley Comp (1982?), I saw, from a distance, Jim Lee, in a UP Pod, lift and tug, then launch. But Jim fooled himself and he fooled me. He had been clipped in by going around the outside of his down tube. When he launched, he immediately engaged in a struggle not to enter a spiral dive. I remember saying, "Throw your chute! Throw your chute!" But he made it to the Pitts and crash-landed in a turn that damaged his glider - but he survived.

My good friends Bob Dunn and Dave Butz both launched unhooked. Bob held on to his base tube all the way down from Plowshare. The impact split his skull and he suffered terribly until he died during the night, alone. Dave pulled himself onto his control bar and rode the glider down from the high Santa Barbara launch.

My sincere thanks to Carlos Miralles and Bill Dodson for teaching me the ONLY way.

NOTHING substitutes for a hang check immediately before take off. I know. I'm still here.
BULLSHIT.

- YOU *DO NOT* do a hang check IMMEDIATELY before take off:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=802
AL's Second flight at Packsaddle how it went
Rick Masters - 2011/10/19 22:47:17 UTC

Al, there's a lot of noise on this thread but if I can just cut through it, I'd like to provide my observations to your excellently detailed account.

A lot of focus is put on hooking in. Too many pilots have died for no good reason. It was never a problem for me. Before lifting the glider, I would lay down and check my distance from the control bar. I always did this. It was part of my unalterable routine. It just took a moment and then I would shoulder the glider. I would stand and allow the wind to lift the wing. I would stand and fly the wing with gentle tension on my hang strap. Then I would identify the neutral lift attitude where the wing weighed nothing - and hold it.

At that moment, I would banish all concern about launching unhooked. I had taken care of it. It was done. It was out of my mind.

Now I would look downslope. I would verify that the bushes or trees below were waving slightly. If they were, I knew that I would encounter lift during and at the end of my run.

Now I would look to one side to see how wide the lift band was AND to see if there was approaching traffic. Then I would look to the other side. If bushes and trees or flags were moving about the same far to either side, I could be assured that I was in uniform ridgelift or in the center of a large thermal updraft. In the event of a large thermal updraft, there is no time to delay because it will not last and you must launch into the first half as it approaches launch.

Now you look to your wireman. His fingers should be "O's" around your nose wires and not touching them. Now you have met all conditions. Timing is of the essence. You yell "Clear!", the wire man dives to the side and you run, holding a neutral angle of attack.
NOBODY does or ever will. EVERYBODY first as an absolute MINIMUM has to stand up and trim his glider. And in the REAL world the absolute minimum is virtually NEVER the case.

- Anybody who teaches that is a total moron totally detached from reality and totally violating the crap out of USHGA regulations.

- Your stupid ass isn't still alive because those two other total douchebags taught you "the ONLY way". Your stupid ass is still alive because you were never subjected to the kinds of conditions, disruptions, distractions, physical and psychological stresses that result in in stupid ass hang checkers and Aussie Methodists to launch unhooked. And the fact that you quit flying around 28 years ago sure didn't hurt your unhooked launch record much either.

- And you NEVER ONCE discovered that you weren't hooked in by doing one of your fictional hang checks immediately before takeoff. Same way I NEVER ONCE discovered I wasn't hooked in with a lift and tug or let it float in the wind. (I VERIFIED that I wasn't hooked in once when I was unsure of my status - but no fuckin' way is that the same thing and no fuckin' way I'd have launched without SOME kind of verification.)

You foot launch a thousand times chances are pretty good you're not gonna have an unhooked launch no matter what you do or don't. Therefore, total fuckin' idiots such as yourself will claim that whatever total fuckin' idiot religious rituals you perform are infallible. "I've driven for forty years without ever buckling a seatbelt and I've never flown through the windshield because I wasn't wearing one or been trapped in a burning vehicle because I was. My sincere thanks to my dad for teaching me the ONLY way."

And you never bother looking outside of your terminally myopic arm's reach radius sphere of the real world to see what ACTUALLY HAPPENS to REAL people in REAL circumstances.

*I* can say that I'm never gonna launch unhooked 'cause ACTUALLY IMMEDIATELY before takeoff I've never once:
- banished all concern about launching unhooked; believed I had taken care of it, that it was done; had put it out of my mind
- wasn't afraid that I wasn't hooked in
- committed to takeoff without a lift and tug as the first component of the sequence

Kinda like a response to a stall. I don't listen to any Bob Show dumb shit lunatics about stalls not being dangerous and I automatically pull the bar in regardless of what I believe the thickness of the down pillow layer below me. I'm not worried about forgetting to do that.

Not launching unhooked is a spinoff benefit of having the right mindset and adhering to the proper procedures.

P.S.
My sincere thanks to Carlos Miralles and Bill Dodson for teaching me the ONLY way.

NOTHING substitutes for a hang check immediately before take off.
Who DOESN'T teach that idiot crap? And you had to have somebody TEACH it to you? Guess there's not much danger of you thinking outside of the box on much of anything.
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