Broken side wire . . .
No.Gordon Rigg - 2015/08/28 11:06:45 UTC
UK
I think...
...totally fucking ignore Jonathan's post just above and......the main thing here is to...
No shit. Did you come up with that all by yourself?...check the wires are not kinked at the thimbles before every flight...
Yeah, that's just so much easier and reliable than following what's in your owner's manual and doing the stomp tests once per setup....then to keep an honest tally of hours flown and replace the wires accordingly.
Sure. Moyes pulled fifty hours out of its ass you should be able to pull twice that out of yours.Every 100 hours would be reasonable.
Pity it wasn't yours.We had a Brit fatality a while back.
Cool, glad he did the load test and found the problem. Also that his other wire was OK.He flew 100km to goal at our comp in Laragne and as he pulled up from a dive over the goal line the side wire broke.
- FUCK! What are the odds!Apart from the first fractional minute of the flight this was probably the only point all day when he was too low to deploy his chute.
- And I always load test mine on the ground in the setup area where it's REALLY too low for my chute to do any good. Matter o' fact I'm virtually never even in my harness whenever I pop a wire.
Well it was just severely kinked, not broken... So what was the problem?We found the side wire severely kinked at the cross tube junction inside the sail.
Ya think he severely kinked it doing those stupid stomp tests?It had definitely been like that for the whole flight, and perhaps many flights.
Well, most of these non chest mounted chutes are just for show anyway. Kinda like easily reachable releases.He was low but his harness had the chute behind his thighs and that did not help. his chute was still in the harness.
So how many hours and months did this wire have on it? At what point should he have replaced it? Should we go with every flight just to make extra sure?
Nah, now you can get to them OK. Just can't pull them out cause the internal support framing bends and closes off the deployment port.I'm glad that idea of chute placement is not used on any current production harnesses.
Good. Nice to see all the successes you assholes are having with your in-flight load tests.We also had a pilot break the side wire in an attempted loop...
Shit. And here I was hoping this would be another gene pool purification incident....who survived the deployment.
- Sixty hours or seven months - whichever came first.He still maintains that the wires were quite new, but along with many witnesses I believe they were quite old.
- Well far be it for me to question the belief system of you and your asshole buddies.
Yes. Two failures of kinked wires. Thus your recommendation to keep a realistic log of hours flown on wires. Do you have any fucking clue how moronic a statement that is?Hence my recommendation to keep a realistic log of hours flown on wires.
- Well, the important thing is that it broke under load and when the former pilot was high enough to deploy.This wire didn't seem to break near the nicopress but a foot or two away from it. That is unusual.
- What the fuck you mean it didn't SEEM to break near the nico but A foot or TWO away? You can't tell where the goddam thing actually blew but we're supposed to be going with your BELIEF that it was quite old and that the pilot was lying?
- What was the pilot's motivation for lying supposed to have been? Flying with a good old wire would've been more asinine than a kinked new one?
- How old does a wire hafta be before it can be successfully kinked? A hundred hours or one year - whichever comes first?
When I first started in hang gliding in 1980 I'd have never believed that it was a sport that could be pursued by people this fucking stupid - let alone that people this fucking stupid would be tolerated in it.
