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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=884
The Bob Show
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/13 05:55:39 UTC

If I boot you permanently it will be due to my concerns over the topic we discussed on the phone. This forum should be a safe place for people of varying ages to visit. You have not given me any assurances that's true with you on this forum.
If I boot you...
Stating that there will be not so much as a pretense of obtaining any kind of consensus. One hundred percent Bob.
...permanently...
1. Admission that he's already BOOTED me TEMPORARILY - "for about a month". This:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=877
Discuss Tad here
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/09 21:58:14 UTC

I've spoken with Tad many times on the phone, and several times he's made the assertion that his presence on this forum is actually contributing to the growth of the US Hawks. I do agree that Tad has brought some people to this forum, but at the same time, I also know that he's driven (or kept) many other people away. So I haven't been able to tell if his presence is beneficial or not.

During my recent cross-country drive, I had the chance to speak with Tad again on this topic, and he again asserted that his presence (and posts) were contributing to the growth of the US Hawks more than they were harming it. So I've decided to put that assertion to the test.

Starting today (December 9th, 2011), I've restricted Tad to only posting in the "Free Speech Zone". I plan to continue that restriction for about a month to see if that helps or hurts general participation in the rest of the forum. This restriction is not intended to be any judgement on Tad or on the value of his posts. Instead, it's intended to simply answer the question as to whether Tad's presence is helping or hurting the growth of the US Hawks and the US Hawks forum (a question he posed himself). At the end of the month, I'll review the results of this restriction to see if our forum participation (measured in posting rates) has increased or not.

All comments are welcome (either here, by PM, or in the Free Speech Zone). Thanks.
is total crap - big fuckin' surprise. Refers to his "recent trip" so it ended no later than 2011/12/08. So he acquired the child molester card no later than 2011/12/05 and - as per the point made before - advised NO ONE of the fake threat to people of varying ages.

2. There will be no reprieve for any reason. Scores of posts and comments such as:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=883
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/03/14 15:15:03 UTC

There will be many problems that crop up as the US Hawks grows. I think it's important that we - as a community - work together to handle them in the best way that we can. There are lots of things to learn from Tad's case. I am not convinced that I did the best thing, and I think it's good to talk about other alternatives. That's part of what will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA.
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1764
Review of Tad Eareckson's Ban from US Hawks
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/17 04:06:03 UTC

US Hawks Board Members,

I had promised Tad that a review of his ban would be brought before the US Hawks Board of Directors as soon as the Board was formed. So I am posting this request as the first issue to be considered for discussion and decision by the Board.

I am posting this as a member of the US Hawks (and not as a Board Member), and it is my recommendation - as a member - that the Board make the decision to defer this discussion for some number of months (2 to 6) so that the Board can get used to operating as a Board before making a decision that may significantly change the experience of all of our users on the forum.

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully Submitted,
Bob Kuczewski
Member of the US Hawks
are pure unadulterated rot.

PERMANENTLY.

- I will never be able to find Jesus, see the light, tell Emperor Bob that I now grasp that a 12 year old boy does not have the maturity to enter a homosexual relationship with a 30 year old man.

- No fake or legitimately elected Bob Show Board of Directors will EVER reverse Emperor Bob's ban. Which, people of varying ages, is another way of saying that there will never BE legitimately elected Bob Show Board of Directors - right? How else can he predict that his ban of me will be permanent?
...it will be due to my concerns...
If he'd been REALLY smart he'd have said:
...it will be due to concerns...
No "my". That would signal that the "many" other people he KNOWS that I've driven (or kept) away were all driven (or kept) away due to this dark unspeakable aspect of my being. But Bob's a pathological control freak and can't resist advertising the power he has over his pet lunatic colony.
...over the topic we discussed on the phone.
1. That nooooobody else gets to hear about. 'Cause:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=884
The Bob Show
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/14 18:51:49 UTC

Tad, I called you privately because I felt this was a private matter. That's also why my posted reference was non-specific. You've made it public by your own choice. Please don't blame me.
Wish I had a time machine. It would be fun to experiment responding and not responding in various ways to see the different strategies Bob would engineer to get the child molestation charge sprayed all over his forum through no fault of his own.

2. You WON'T be booting me PERMANENTLY over anything that has a shadow of a basis in your Mission Statement or SOPs. Absolutely nothing at the time or amended retroactively. Translation - an individual's security as a Bob Show member is 100.00 percent dependent upon Emperor Bob's whim.
This forum should be a safe place for people of varying ages to visit.
1. Biggie here. Another slip. "For people of varying ages to VISIT." An admission that there ARE NO people of varying ages REGISTERED on The Bob Show - which means that the unrepentant child molester has ZERO options for IDENTIFYING them - let alone COMMUNICATING WITH them via personal messaging. All they are undecipherable increases on the hit counters.

2. What kind of total fucking douchebag wants "THIS" forum to be a safe place for people of varying ages to visit? I want ALL forums to be a safe place for people of varying ages to visit. Team Kite Strings made both the Davis and Jack Shows safer places for people of varying ages to visit by HUMILIATING Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney and Ryan Instant-Hands-Free-Release Voight to the point that the former can never again breathe a syllable about the standard aerotow weak link and it's long track record and the latter has vanished permanently after being proven beyond any ghost of a shadow of a doubt to be both fundamentally incompetent and a liar.

3. Why only people of VARYING ages? Why shouldn't an aviation organization be a safe place for people of ALL ages? You very obviously don't give a flying fuck about it being a safe place for people of...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=463
Davis Straub's "Oz Report" Conflict of Interest
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/03/09 02:33:49 UTC

This is going to sound cold, but I believe people have a right to make their own choices. I don't want a "nanny state" where anyone is telling me what I can and can't do ... for my own good. The sport of hang gliding would surely not exist if that thinking were carried to its logical extreme. There's something bred into all living things that urges them toward taking some degree of risk in their lives. Those who want to forbid that risk are essentially snuffing out the human spirit itself. I can't support that. I do support information. I support good information. I support exposing bad information. But I don't support dictating what anyone can or can't do. The fundamental principle of economics (and evolution) is two words: "people choose".
...NON varying ages to visit. How is it possible to administer an organization that's safe for people falling in one age range but not another? When somebody asks me what weak link he should use I don't ask him how old he is. I ask him what the max certified operating weight of his glider is.
You have not given me any assurances that's true with you on this forum.
1. Fuck, Bob. I was the one who identified the unrepentant child molester on that forum while you wanted to keep your membership and visiting people of varying ages totally in the dark. What other dangers to people of varying ages on The Bob Show are you covering up to give a false appearance of safety and integrity? How 'bout YOU giving ME and your membership some assurances? Maybe start by apologizing, resigning, and removing yourself as a registered member.

2. Why should one individual be singled out to give you assurances that he won't make The Bob Show an unsafe place for people of varying ages to visit? Why not make it totally fair and across the board up front? Make it a condition of membership. If that had been stated in your SOPs when you invited me to join I'd have just politely declined and informed you that I was only interested in hang gliding associations in which I had the right to make them unsafe places for people of varying ages to visit.

What happens when the next unrepentant child molester joins The Bob Show with the natural expectation of being able to make it an unsafe places for people of varying ages to visit?

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=884
The Bob Show
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/13 05:55:39 UTC

This has not been easy or fun. This has been a sad realization for me that some people are so pathological that they cannot interact reasonably with others. That's why so many societies have jails (or death penalties). At some point, they've realized that the costs of interacting with pathological people is too high to be paid. We're reaching that point.
Gonna go through the same drill? Or is that you just really enjoy queer baiting?

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=883
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/03/14 15:03:47 UTC

Now I can be forgiving of many things if people are repentant. But Tad gave me no assurance whatsoever that he would not repeat this behavior. Since I have no control over the ages of people on this forum, and since I do not monitor any PM messages sent between members, I decided that it was prudent to ban him from the forum.
Ya know sumpin', douchebag? There was an ACTUAL public safety situation that Kite Strings dealt with in early November last fall.

http://www.kitestrings.org/post8634.html#p8634
ADVISORIES

We got some information that there was a jamming issue with a release I helped develop, there was something around a one in a million chance that a glider could be crashed as a consequence, and the PRUDENT thing to do was put out an advisory IMMEDIATELY and THEN do the follow-up work.

And that's EXACTLY what I did.

And it turned out that there was an erroneous relaying of information and there was no actual issue and I amended the advisory accordingly.

Compare/Contrast with the bullshit you pulled - and continue to.
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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=2466
SHGA - Call for Ban
Frank Colver - 2016/05/06 19:12:55 UTC

I'm appalled by the lack of understanding by some SHGA members of what the US Hawks organization is. There is absolutely no competition to the SHGA by the US Hawks. The SHGA can be a chapter of both USHPA and US Hawks and it should be a chapter of both. At this point in time it won't even cost them any money to be a chapter of US Hawks.

Some folks there also seem to be ignorant of the fact that the US Hawks is run by the temp BOD and is not run by BobK.
If the temp BOD is so powerful then how come it's temp?
He is the web master but all decisions about the operation of the US Hawks have to be voted on by the board.
For whom did you cast your vote when the board members were being elected?
BobK can make suggestions, as can any member of US Hawks, but he can not alone make any decisions about US Hawks as an organization.
BobK can and will do whatever the fuck he wants whenever the fuck he feels like it.
Frank Colver, still an active member of USHPA (#7), FDGS, and US Hawks. I invite pilots of SHGA to join those organizations, in addition to the USHPA, which you need at this time for insurance, you will have much camaraderie with fellow freeflight loving pilots.
Can I join?
Brian Scharp - 2016/05/08 14:22:48 UTC

Isn't the Board still in the "advisory" capacity, "without any authority at all"?
Bill Cummings - 2016/05/08 18:09:42 UTC

The "TRIAL" Board is still in an advisory capacity, with the authority to vote with our feet (or fingers) and leave. (And bitch about it on the way out.)
Much like I did eight days ago after over 35 some odd, years with USHGA/USHPA.
The moderator has been doing what he has been saying he would do all along.
Like Trump - as long as your hearing is selective at any given moment.
Turning over control. Two of us at the RGSA club have been given RGSA and the password to change/moderate the RGSA forum.
Didn't I tell ya he was magnanimous?
(But we do it only with the okay from our local club president.)
The Trial Board is a practice session for when the day comes that members vote for who will be an official Board Member.
What day will that be? I'd like to mark it on my calendar.
What we accomplish now is to show the direction that members want to go while advancing the mission statement: "To promote, protect, and serve recreational hang gliding".
And to make The Bob Show a safe place for people of varying ages to visit.
The real Board Members might decide to include golf but I hope not.
Might also decide to rescind the bans of unrepentant child molesters and condemn Emperor Bob in no uncertain terms for being a duplicitous self-serving motherfucker - but I won't be holding my breath.
I've been down that road before.
I'd find it extremely difficult to name any roads you haven't been down before.
I'm hoping the actual board members will appreciate us clearing the launch of this association and will step in to maintain it when the time comes.
Got me cleared just fine - asshole.
I expect the US Hawks to take less time setting up than it took our government getting women to vote and own property.
Lessee... 1776/07/04 to 1920/08/18. So if The Bob Show establishes an elected board by 2154/09/27 not one single member alive today will have anything to complain to Emperor Bob and his current Fake Board of Directors about.
I say that just to remind everyone that getting set up won't happen over night...
Or maybe not even in about a month.
....but keep in mind, many hands will make for light work.
'Specially when all dissenting hands are chopped off by Emperor Bob to make The Bob Show a safe place for people of varying ages to visit.
For me the USHPA has taken a different course and I am the guy in the back of the crowd in the picture below.

Image
Walking in the opposite direction would be WAY more effective in getting the job done Bill. You'd need fewer than half the number of like minded individuals. Give it some thought.
Bob Kuczewski - 2016/05/08 18:27:54 UTC

No. The Board does have authority, as I'll explain shortly. First let me focus on an important part of what I wrote when forming the Board:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1244
Creating the US Hawks Board of Directors
Bob Kuczewski - 2013/04/29 02:28:19 UTC

I think the best way to approach this is to initially form the Board in an advisory capacity and see how that works out. Once the Board gets itself up and functioning, then we can begin to gradually transfer more and more authority to the Board. I think this will eliminate many of the problems that plagued the HGAA's bootstrapping process.
The Board has indeed been gradually gaining more authority - just as I wrote in that statement.
With whom have you shared your password? What happens if you go to an unregulated launch tomorrow afternoon and lose control of your wing such that it lifts up into the turbulent jet stream?
In fact, in the roughly year and a half that the Board has been in existence...
Following the roughly four years, six months, three days, five hours, fifty-two minutes, thirty-five second that The Bob Show existed as the total dictatorship it remains today WITHOUT a fake board of directors.
...every single one of their decisions has become the "law of the land" ... even if I disagreed with it.
With The Bob Show's most powerful and effective dissenter having been extrajudicially and permanently silenced by Emperor Bob at 2011/12/15 05:00:00 UTC and with a the Fake Board handpicked and stacked by Emperor Bob and nothing of any particular substance at stake. Big fuckin' surprise.
While I do currently still have "veto" power, the Board's authority comes largely (and quite forcefully) from what it would cost me politically and in the respect of our members if I should use that veto improperly...
Any members who respect you after all of the shit you've pulled and sleazy tactics you've employed are total douchebags. You've got a rotten core and foundation and you're never gonna be able to build anything decent on or with it.
...(I can already imagine the headlines on ozreport.com, hanggliding.org, and kitestrings.org Image )
'Specially kitestrings.org. Wanna know what it can do to deserving individuals? Talk to Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney and Ryan Instant-Hands-Free-Release Voight.
You may say that's "without any authority at all", but that's incorrect, and certainly not what I feel from my end.
And pretty much EVERYTHING is about what you FEEL...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=883
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/03/14 15:03:47 UTC

Now I can be forgiving of many things if people are repentant. But Tad gave me no assurance whatsoever that he would not repeat this behavior. Since I have no control over the ages of people on this forum, and since I do not monitor any PM messages sent between members, I decided that it was prudent to ban him from the forum.
...from your end.
I know that I risk losing the credibility of the entire organization if I should ever veto a Board decision without extremely good and justifiable reasons.
You'll never lose credibility from your entire organization, Bob. If it were possible to lose it from your douchebag colony you'd have lost it already. But the problem with having an organization built with that caliber of individual is that you're gonna keep never accomplishing anything of any actual substance.
That has caused me to compromise on issues where I might otherwise have done something differently myself.
How come you're not giving us an example?
So it is factually incorrect to say that is "without any authority at all".
It'll have some authority when it's got the ability to wipe out your site that you have. On Kite Strings there are three other individuals who have my password. And that's a fuckin' huge percentage relative to what you've got in the way of registered members.
On the other hand, you are correct that I do still hold that veto power, and I do so for two reasons. First, I "somewhat" act as a "Supreme Court" which does not make laws, but ensures that any laws made conform to our "constitution".
Where's your "constitution" and "laws"? Bunch of utopian sounding crap on your FAQs page which you've repeatedly demonstrated over the years is totally meaningless and without substance. Every principle you state is backed by a truckload of asterisks you use at your sole discretion to totally obliterate.

The only thing we can put any trust in is:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/faq.php
Frequently Asked Questions
Is there a Board of Directors for the US Hawks?
Not yet. The HGAA's early problems arose because different people wanted to take the organization in different directions. That created power stuggles which cost the HGAA some of its early leadership. For now, I'm going to take the US Hawks in the direction that I believe is right. If people want to go along, then they're welcome. If not, there are at least two other alternatives. :)
my way or the highway.
In other words, I act as a "check and balance" against things running away as they did with the HGAA.
Yeah. Whatever the fuck you want. Tell us something we DON'T know already.
Second, my veto power gives me ultimate legal and financial responsibility.
Like Hitler.
The US Hawks is not incorporated yet, and we don't carry liability insurance for our Board members. If they were to hold absolute power, then they might be liable for claims.
Sam got totally clean away with Terry Mason. I'm having a hard time imagining a situation which would be problematic for any Bob Show officials.
My veto power makes me the person who is solely on the hook for any such claims.
Really? Can you cite a statute that supports that statement.
From a legal standpoint, the Board is - as you said - strictly advisory.
So nobody's ever been held accountable for advice he's given under any federal or state law?
Getting back to Frank's perspective (which comes from his actual experience on the Board), he finds that every decision of the Board has been implemented.
'Specially:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1764
Review of Tad Eareckson's Ban from US Hawks
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/17 04:06:03 UTC

US Hawks Board Members,

I had promised Tad that a review of his ban would be brought before the US Hawks Board of Directors as soon as the Board was formed. So I am posting this request as the first issue to be considered for discussion and decision by the Board.

I am posting this as a member of the US Hawks (and not as a Board Member), and it is my recommendation - as a member - that the Board make the decision to defer this discussion for some number of months (2 to 6) so that the Board can get used to operating as a Board before making a decision that may significantly change the experience of all of our users on the forum.

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully Submitted,
Bob Kuczewski
Member of the US Hawks
Even though I have asked for certain things from the Board, if the Board doesn't grant them, I do not do them. That's been true on a number of issues...
None of which you're citing as examples.
...and it reflects my commitment to give the Board more and more power as it matures.
Ever upwards, always aspiring and striving to attain YOUR level of maturity.
So from Frank's perspective, he is correct. He sees me lobbying for some things and not getting them, and that's because I cannot just do whatever I want without consequences.
Not if I have anything to do about it, motherfucker.
Those consequences are very real to me and to the US Hawks.
Where are your SOPs, Bob?
Does that help clarify the situation?
Who is and isn't allowed to be a Bob Show member and what rights and protections does he have as a Bob Show member. We already know that a five and a half Bob Show member doesn't have a right to vote.
P.S. It appears that Bill and I were typing at the same time, and ended up with the same general conclusion.
Go figure.
Even if I were completely selfish in my goals for the US Hawks, I have to recognize that the Board can turn around and walk away at any time.
Yeah. We know. The my way or the highway thing. The only founding principle we can take to the bank.
I believe that would seriously injure the organization.
And reduce it to what?
So the authority that Bill showed in his cartoon is very very real. Thanks for sharing that great perspective Bill!!
You really need to hear his great perspectives on weak links and Hewett bridles when you get a free moment.
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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2436
Examples of Bad Ideas
Margie Holland - 2016/04/14 22:19:24 UTC

How about letting a thief be a night watchman for a jewelry store? Image

Or, a pedophile run a daycare center? Image

Well, USHPA gives pilots who are risky and thoughtless the right to fly with children in an unsafe manner. Image

Is this really smart? Does USGPA even realize how stupid and dangerous this is? Of course they do, but they don't seem to be doing anything about it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxgAEkNpgJc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__LgBpwUWQE
Doesn't sound like you follow what goes on with The Bob Show very well, Margie. Bob would have no problem whatsoever letting a pedophile run the Bob Show Daycare Center. Read his posts.

If the pedophile expresses regrets, significant remorse over a homosexual relationship with a twelve year old boy when in a position of trust and having chosen to be a pedophile, gives Emperor Bob assurance that he will not repeat his behavior then Emperor Bob will give the pedophile access to the Bob Show Daycare Center which will allow him to abuse, molest more defenseless and innocent victims.

And even if he DOESN'T express remorse and give assurances, Emperor Bob will HAPPILY...
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/15 00:27:23 UTC

Peaceful Coexistence

Hello Tad,

I just wanted to codify in writing what I had been proposing on the phone today.

I feel that we have some common goals and some conflicting goals. Unfortunately, I feel that the conflicting goals will end up destroying our ability to cooperate. That's the "train wreck" that I mentioned during our phone calls.

I believe if we continue down the current path, that train wreck will destroy our ability to cooperate on any of our shared goals, and we will walk away as enemies. I would like to avert that train wreck with the simple suggestion that we use our two forums for the different purposes that we've defined and that we mutually support the two forums for those different purposes.

More specifically, I would like to see you voluntarily resign from active participation in the US Hawks with a statement that you support what we are doing but want to focus on your work at Kite Strings. I will follow that with a statement that we've appreciated your contributions to the US Hawks and we'll be following your progress on Kite Strings as well as seeking your specialized advice as we progress in building the US Hawks. I'll encourage cross-linking to Kite Strings, and you'll encourage cross-linking to US Hawks. We'll both benefit.

If we can do something like that, then I think it will help both of our causes and strengthen our ability to cooperate on our shared objectives. If we cannot do something like that, then I think we'll end up harming both our shared objectives and our non-shared objectives as this train wreck evolves. This is a sincere offer to try to work together, and I hope you'll take it in that spirit.

Thanks,
Bob Kuczewski
...send Bob Show Daycare Center kids over to the Kite Strings Daycare Center.

Tell me what the difference is.

Something I just realized...

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15716
weak links
Davis Straub - 2009/04/26 22:05:31 UTC

Tad obviously completely lacks social intelligence and probably a few other forms of intelligence. Also, he obviously has other mental health issues.
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24846
Is this a joke ?
Davis Straub - 2011/08/26 20:10:56 UTC

Oh, and BTW, Tad is clueless as well as being a child molester (no kidding).
Jim Rooney - 2011/08/26 23:12:32 UTC

Just to back Davis up on this, cuz the person that let's the cat out of the bag always gets flack for it...

So we're clear as a bell on this.
Tad is a convicted paedophile.
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31052
Poll on weaklinks
Jim Rooney - 2013/03/05 01:32:20 UTC

Carful who you put stock in mate.
Calling blindrodie a fool? Seriously? Easily discounted?
You may not have an understanding of who you're brushing off... In lieu of some people that have been listening to the rantings of, I kid you not, a convicted pedophile. I'm willing to look past the messenger... To a point. But gimme a break... You're blowing off a tug pilot instead?
Bob NEVER calls me a pedophile, homosexual, fag, queer, whatever... - the way his control freak colleagues do it. The spam templates Bob employs are:
homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy
unrepentant child molester
Using the flavor of tactic employed by:
Davis, Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney, Paul Hurless, Brad Barkley
Bob would be admitting that different individuals are born with different emotional wiring patterns - products of tens of millions of years of evolution. Bob's strategy is to paint me as being no different from somebody who smashes open the display case and runs out to his motorcycle with the hundred thousand dollar diamond necklace who can't see and/or doesn't give a flying fuck about the harm he's doing to other individuals. (But who amongst us wouldn't wanna have a hundred thousand dollar diamond necklace if one were available out in the middle of the desert somewhere?)

Totally onboard with North Carolina.
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Re: The Bob Show

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http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=877
Discuss Tad here
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/16 20:50:32 UTC

I think this topic is mostly done. It was a sad ending, and I wish it had turned out differently.

But I did want to address Warren's comments on double jeopardy. We have a system of justice that requires people to "pay" for their crimes. Sometimes that payment is money, sometimes it's service, sometimes it's jail, and sometimes it's even death. But along with the notion of "paying" there should also be some level of remorse indicating a willingness to not repeat the offense. That's what Tad never exhibited, and that's what concerned me the most. Tad's unwillingness to admit he was wrong (in this very obvious case) was symptomatic of all the problems we've had with Tad in many other areas. His refusal to condemn his own conduct also made it difficult to have him on a forum where we do not screen people based on their age.

All of these things went into my decision and I take sole responsibility for it. I am hopeful that someday the US Hawks will be a more self-governing body with elected officers. At that time, I would welcome them to review this case. But for now, I feel it's my job to do what I can to grow this organization to support the sport of hang gliding.
We have a system of justice that requires people to "pay" for their crimes.
"Pay" for their CRIMES. (Whether or not their crimes have actual VICTIMS.) Fines, compulsory service, imprisonment, execution don't really count as "PAYMENT". One needs to express some level of REMORSE for Emperor Bob to consider payment to have been effected. Maybe we can just express remorse in lieu of all that "PAYMENT" stuff we've been implementing for centuries. "Yeah, I'm sorry I blew that kid's head off when he was slow handing me his wallet. Now if you'll excuse me the Patriots/Steelers game is kicking off in 45 minutes."

And whenever one is convicted of breaking a law that 51 percent of the population passed over the bitter objection of 49 percent of the population one must express REMORSE under Emperor Bob's government regulations. "Yes, Your Honor. I most assuredly SHOULD have given that white man my seat and moved to the back of the bus upon his perfectly reasonable demand. My heart was filled with hatred and evil when I violated that law and I will regret my behavior for the remainder of my days - especially when the day comes that might have my right to sit at the back of the bus restored."

Under Emperor Bob's answer to the nanny state one's speech, thoughts, feelings are subject to compulsion by the 51 percent majority. Couple centuries worth of US Constitution, laws, court decisions haven't been oppressive enough for Emperor Bob.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=802
AL's Second flight at Packsaddle how it went
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/10/18 17:44:05 UTC

You've convinced me more than ever that you have a pathological need to argue for no good reason.
Tad, you're not satisfied being the "hook in police". Now you want to be the thought police. Image
You think you can get an organization launched in a viable direction with a bunch o' total assholes who tolerate this kinda crap? Suck my dick, Emperor Bob.

Also note, people of varying ages, that Bob Show law, individual rights, punishment after the better part of half a dozen years whatever the fuck Emperor Bob feels like saying they are at any given moment.
Tad's unwillingness to admit he was wrong (in this very obvious case)...
Got some cases you'd like to cite that aren't so very obvious? Or does Emperor Bob get to implement his personal opinions on what are and aren't obvious cases?

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=883
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/28 20:18:03 UTC

Tad was (and is) an unrepentant child molester. He expressed no regrets over his homosexual relationship with a 12 year old boy other than that he regretted the consequences of getting caught.

As the operator of this forum I felt the duty to protect our members - some of whom may not be adults. That's why I ultimately chose to ban Tad from this site. However, I am not opposed to his name or his hang gliding ideas being discussed. I am not opposed to links posted to his KiteStrings forum. I am not trying to obliterate Tad (as Jack and Davis have done). Instead, I'm just trying to create a forum where we can build a better national hang gliding association than the one we have.

I stand behind my decision with Tad, and I would like to hear how you think this might have been handled differently. I had hoped for a better solution myself, but I wasn't able to find one. If you have a better solution, then please don't be stingy about sharing it with us.

Thanks.
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/03/14 15:03:47 UTC

My final decision was made based on a phone call where Tad relayed that he had molested a 12 year old boy while he (Tad) was in a position of trust (scouting, in this case) regarding the boy. I asked Tad if he felt that it was wrong for a 30 year old man to have a sexual relationship with a 12 year old boy. He replied that he didn't see a problem other than the consequences dealt by society. He couldn't seem to grasp that a 12 year old boy does not have the maturity to enter into that kind of relationship.

Now I can be forgiving of many things if people are repentant. But Tad gave me no assurance whatsoever that he would not repeat this behavior. Since I have no control over the ages of people on this forum, and since I do not monitor any PM messages sent between members, I decided that it was prudent to ban him from the forum.

As a side note, Tad's inability to see a problem with his 12yr/30yr relationship reflects a systemic problem in Tad's reasoning. I believe this is the root of many of Tad's problems in other areas. If Tad can defend and justify his sexual relationship with a 12 year old boy, then I believe he can defend and justify anything that he does or says. I believe that's been his fundamental problem on all of these forum discussions.

Having said all of that, I still believe that Tad can contribute to the sport of hang gliding in many ways. I am open to any suggestions on how we can do that while not exposing our younger members to any potential risk. Thanks.
As the operator of this forum I felt the duty to protect our members - some of whom may not be adults.
Since when...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=463
Davis Straub's "Oz Report" Conflict of Interest
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/03/09 02:33:49 UTC

This is going to sound cold, but I believe people have a right to make their own choices. I don't want a "nanny state" where anyone is telling me what I can and can't do ... for my own good. The sport of hang gliding would surely not exist if that thinking were carried to its logical extreme. There's something bred into all living things that urges them toward taking some degree of risk in their lives. Those who want to forbid that risk are essentially snuffing out the human spirit itself. I can't support that. I do support information. I support good information. I support exposing bad information. But I don't support dictating what anyone can or can't do. The fundamental principle of economics (and evolution) is two words: "people choose".
...Bob? Give me ONE example of you having done ANYTHING to protect ONE of our members from ANYTHING. If you knew one of our members was an unrepentant child molester and thought that some of our members might not be adults then why didn't you immediately post an advisory and chop the unrepentant child molester's personal messaging wire? Putting concern for the rights and feelings of a single unrepentant child molester over the safety of people of varying ages?

With those posts you're just several months away from having one of your small handful of dedicated sycophants terminally splattered off the side...

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...of the Real County Airport with a known totally incompetent and dangerous fuckin' douchebag at the power management end of the string. Quote me ONE WORD - from somebody the unrepentant child molester hadn't brought over from Kite Strings - cautioning anybody about that situation.
Bob Kuczewski - 2014/11/19 19:12:48 UTC

It's hard for me to imagine the kind of human being who would write something like that on a public forum to someone as experienced and thoughtful as Bill Cummings.
Highly experienced and astoundingly thoughtful Bill Cummings do anything? Was it OK that the beneficiary of Sam's good decision in the interest of his safety was a 66 year old rather than a 17.9 or 11.5 year old? Did you have some indication that Sam wouldn't be participating in a critical capacity in a tow operation with a 17.9 or 11.5 year old on the back end?

If you feel it's your DUTY to protect your members - some of whom may not be adults - shouldn't a court of law find you at least civilly negligent when your failure in your duty results in a totally unnecessary death of one of your members?

Now that you've established a Fake Board of Directors shouldn't they also be feeling a fake duty to protect their members - some of whom may not be adults? I haven't heard anything.

I ACTUALLY *DO* feel a responsibility for the safety of Kite Strings members and readers. Quite unlike you I'm not the least bit concerned about (not) exposing our younger members to any potential risk. There's potential risk to backing out of the driveway and I'm sure there are scores of fatalities - not counting toddlers crushed under the wheels - that have resulted from that operation. What I do is IDENTIFY the risks - just about all of which are u$hPa manufactured and imposed - and define the strategies to mitigate or eliminate them. And I defy you - or anybody else - to identify a procedure to suffer a skinned knee that we haven't fully and properly addressed here. Compare/Contrast with The Bob Show which eliminates the dangers of stalls by declaring them totally benign. (Guess that brings Terry back from the dead totally unscathed.)

My candidate for person of lowest varying age ever to register on The Bob Show:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hhpa/message/11596
on "Tad"
Zack C - 2010/11/09 15:47:32 UTC

Not exactly...I asked him to substantiate his claims. Dave says we're listening to Tad just because he says he's right, while Tad has backed up everything he's said.

Am I the only one that sees the irony? And for the record, Tad has been flying for longer than I've been alive and has far more hang gliding experience than either of us.
- thirty max when our (Houston club) forum correspondence first began
- founder of Kite Strings.
- I brought him over to The Bob Show
- thinks (knows) you're totally full o' shit on the people of varying ages issue and has stated so in no uncertain terms

Thirty max when our Houston club forum correspondence first began. And I was the one who brought him over. Can you document anyone younger?
Having said all of that, I still believe that Tad can contribute to the sport of hang gliding in many ways. I am open to any suggestions on how we can do that while not exposing our younger members to any potential risk. Thanks.
Which is another way of saying that Tad, to date, HASN'T ever contributed anything to the sport of hang gliding in ANY way. And the only way Tad will ever be able to contribute to the sport of hang gliding is if he's allowed to function on The Bob Show under ironclad restrictions which prevent him from casting his foul shadow on the younger members that we now have in the second post which we didn't seem to have in the first post.

Now here's the really good part:
His refusal to condemn his own conduct also made it difficult to have him on a forum where we do not screen people based on their age.
As the operator of this forum I felt the duty to protect our members - some of whom may not be adults.
Since I have no control over the ages of people on this forum, and since I do not monitor any PM messages sent between members, I decided that it was prudent to ban him from the forum.
I am open to any suggestions on how we can do that while not exposing our younger members to any potential risk.
Don't screen people based on their age, zero control over the ages of people on that forum, no monitoring of communications between members... Fuckin' unrepentant child molester's PARADISE. Why would any self respecting unrepentant child molester waste his time hanging out at parks, playgrounds, public restrooms with an environment like the one you've created so readily available? I've let all my unrepentant child molester buddies know about the target rich, free fire environment you've created and told them to tell all their unrepentant child molester buddies. They're gonna be registering in droves to have access to all your younger members...

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...and I'll be coaching them all on how to sound like they know something about or are interested in getting into hang gliding and don't like what they're seeing going on with u$hPa.

You've never had nor ever will have the slightest genuine concern for anybody's actual safety. To you, kids are just tools for attacking opposition forces - both good and evil.
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And a SIXTH Bob Show birthday passing and STILL a dictatorship with a Fake Board of Directors.

You and I both know that you're a sleazy manipulative truth-twisting motherfucker who can't bear the thought of sharing a milligram's worth of power with a single other individual from the entirety of US hang gliding. And the ONLY "individuals" you have active in your "organization" are those who tolerate / approve of what you're doing and are quite content to be treated with that level of contempt "for about a month" / interminably.

You can NEVER create anything from The Bob Show beyond the personality cult you've always had. The MILLISECOND you loosen your grip the whole pile o' crap implodes.

And if you get hit by a truck tomorrow... Notice, people of varying ages, that Emperor Bob has never stated anything about passwords going to key individuals in the event he foolishly raises his wing those critical six inches up into the turbulent jet stream at some non-u$hPa controlled launch?

Anybody care to make any predictions about what the state of The Bob Show will be on 2017/08/13?
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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=34745
Torrey Pines Gliderport - Tandem Exemption pulled
Jim Gaar - 2016/10/14 12:09:46 UTC

Wow, this is a truly amazing thread...

Full fukin circle it has come (the issue not the thread) from one forced out member to what may be the truth finally trickling out from sources that have been watching from the sidelines for YEARS!

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Ryan Voight - 2016/10/14 18:51:53 UTC

If you speak of whom I think- he was not removed because of the content of his points, but because of his tactics and methods in attempting to bring about change. I truly believe he meant well... but he was a classic epitomy...
You really oughta run spellchecks before posting, Rian.
...of "cut off the nose to spite the face". He was doing things to hurt ALL of free flying, just to dig in with his personal vendettas against the establishment.
1. So far we could be talking about T** at K*** S******.

2. But let's not forget that he made The Bob Show a safe place for people of varying ages to visit by banning all known unrepentant child molesters. That should count for sumpin'.
No one ever really said he was wrong about the issues he talked about at Torrey.
No one?
But calling the cops...
You mean the cops who repeatedly dragged him off to jail for trespassing on a public park during public hours?
...going to every town hall meeting and making a stink over and over and over...
Yeah, fuck this business of hang gliding people exercising their First Amendment freedoms and participating in government!
...mis-representing...
One word, no hyphen.
...himself...
Yeah, he was always coming in wearing a Rosa Parks mask, wig, and costume.
...his credentials...
Wasn't REALLY a u$hPa Biwingual Four. He FORGED that card in his wallet.
...or his experience/expertise...
So it was one or the other? Not both? And you can't remember which?
...so that he could be a witness in a suit filed against us.
So why were WE - with all of our manpower, resources, legal muscle - completely unable to into court and reveal him to be the total fraud he is?
He meant well, but he did not do good things.
The way you have done your entire hang gliding career...

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Starting at age nine and counting. Shudder to think what the sport would look like now if your dad had backed the car over you and your tricycle.
Please do not confuse history with making him out to be something he wasn't- he was being an agent of chaos, not a fixer of issues.
Good thing you got him out of the way now. Look at the tremendous forward strides we've been making since early last year.
He would rather make a stink and a ruckus than actually accomplish anything...
Fuck yeah. Like dumping Air California Adventures out of u$hPa. We'd have NEVER been able to accomplish that with Bob making such big stinks about how Air California Adventures was operating.
and that is that.
Got that, Jack Show Mutual Masturbation Society? Lord Ryan hath proclaimed that that is that so no more discussion. End of story.
2016/10/14 19:06:43 UTC - 3 thumbs up - NMERider
Sure you wanna be aligning yourself with this sleazy incompetent liar, Jonathan? Rooney's been dealt with, Bob has fucked himself into a corner, Ryan still needs a lot of kicking. We keep knocking him down but we keep failing to beat him into a bloody enough pulp to keep him from getting back up.
Jim Gaar - 2016/10/14 19:01:18 UTC

Which is, of course only your opinion...
It's hang gliding, Rodie...

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30971
Zach Marzec
Zack C - 2013/02/13 15:02:38 UTC

Can you explain, then, exactly how we arrived at the current 130 lb weak link standard?
Jim Gaar - 2013/02/13 17:57:05 UTC

Former Flight Park Manager

Because it has the best known and accountable safety record (in my personal books anyway).
What else is there?
Wolf in sheep's clothing? Maybe. Was this wolf correct about most everything that was going on at TP? I'll let others decide that...
Don't really need to. The courts and u$hPa have already decided.
I can only repeat what I wrote so I won't. Change history Ryan? History will take care of itself.
While we muppets stand by totally helplessly.
Still doesn't mean the wolf was incorrect about whatever has been going on a TP.

Hope I get to fly there one day.
Why? I don't think you've flown more than five or ten times in your entire rotten existence.
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Not that anyone needs to.
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Son of Brad Geary Video:


Reaper's Makapuu Para-base jumping

Commercial tandem paraglider driver - who's almost certainly an asshole - doing something kinda innovative, creative, cool and endangering NO ONE.

Probably illegal this time but nobody gives a flying fuck. And, once again, nobody's trying to hide anything nefarious 'cause they've posted the goddam video, right?

So of course, over on the Bob Personality Cult forum:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1648
No USHPA Email Candidate Statements this Year
Scott C. Wise - 2014/12/19 04:57:19 UTC

Does this look like responsible (safe) behavior for a USPGA Regional Director -

Is this even legal?
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Bob Kuczewski - 2014/12/19 05:14:41 UTC

You mean this?

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Not only does it NOT look safe ... it looks like a good way for USHPA to lose its FAA tandem exemption.

Is there any way to justify this as an "instructional" flight?
No, Bob, it doesn't LOOK safe. Therefore it ISN'T. And anybody who does anything that doesn't LOOK safe to any of your brain dead Bob Show cocksuckers - like aerotowing or standing in a launch line clipped in with one's helmet off - should get a permanent rating revocation, felony conviction, and year's worth of incarceration at a federal max security prison.
Scott C. Wise - 2014/12/19 06:02:28 UTC

I've got this growing list of prominent USHPA members who (by way of HARD evidence) are of low moral character...
Suck my dick, oh Wingspan33 of Impeccable Moral Character.
...and/or a threat to the USHPA's "risk management" (let's keep the Association's Insurance) efforts.
But sit aside for decades of flagrantly illegal and deliberately insanely aerotowing standards and say and do nothing or worse.
How hard would it be to email that video to the underwriter and someone at the FAA?
And since there's nothing that's actually endangering anybody you can bet your bottom dollar that the FAA pigfuckers will come down on these guys like a ton of bricks.
I think, that before this joker even takes office, a recall election should be scheduled. Forget that! Revoke his membership - ASAP.

Once more, this would be for the GOOD of every member of the USHPA. Stunts like this one by Pete Michelmore and "student"(?) threaten the insurance coverage and hefty membership fee increases of EVERY PILOT in the USHPA.
And, of course...


Reaper's Makapuu Para-base jumping
pete michelmore - 2009/12/26 18:19

Cade 'Pinball' Palmer para-base jumps from Pete 'Reaper' Michelmore's tandem paraglider over Makapuu beach, Hawaii on christmas eve...
same11

Do you use a gopro hd camera?
pete michelmore

I handheld a GoPro HD
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smooth!
Tonya Solaris

Too much fun!
wingspan34
2014/12/18 ~

A now soon to be USHPA Region 3 Director, violating the USHPA's Tandem exemption? On public display no less ! ! !
What if the FAA gets sent a copy of this! And what about the USHPA's insurance carrier?
Time for a membership revocation!
Bob Kuczewski - 2014/12/22 07:42:55 UTC

Regarding the Michelmore video ... it didn't take long for someone to cover their tracks:

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Looks like he'll fit right in at USHPA!!!

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So here's the slideshow version of what the Hang Gliding Taliban has cost our culture:

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The Hawaiian Hang Gliding Association (HHA) LZ is about where one would expect it to be - west end of Makapu'u Tidepools Park, bordered on its south edge by Kalaniana'ole Highway / Hawaii 72. Approaching paraglider can be seen at edge over highway.

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Advanced on same heading to about fifty yards off beach.

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Just shy of beach.

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Halfway across green between beach and bordering drive / parking area.

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Inside LZ where it widens.

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Near upwind end / probable landing point.

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hanggliding.org tanslates uskawks to losreville.org
Bill Cummings - 2016/02/20 21:15:13 UTC

The trouble with civilized society is that one can not kill the people that desperately need it.
Bob Kuczewski - 2016/02/21 10:00:30 UTC

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That is the greatest "Billism" I've ever set eyes on!!!

I was already in bed ... about to doze off when I read that line via my cell phone. I think the neighbors could here me laughing.
http://www.shga.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3840
[TIL] About Tad Eareckson
Bob Kuczewski - 2013/03/10 18:20:34 UTC

Tad joined us, and for a while things were fine. But over time, it became obvious to me that he was more interested in just bashing people than trying to actually solve problems in the sport of hang gliding. For a long time, I tried to show him kindness on our forum and I gave him a lot of slack with regard to his profanity and his comments that he wished certain people would crash and kill themselves. Eventually (and for reasons that I won't full disclose here), it became necessary to ask Tad to leave the US Hawks forum, and he is currently the only person who's been completely banned from the US Hawks.
Forget Trump ... Bill Cummings for President!!!
But Bill didn't register in time so we'll be pulling the lever for The Donald.

But maybe he can run for President of The Bob Show. No, wait. I forgot. The Bob Show doesn't HAVE elections. Just a Dictator For Life with a smattering of cocksuckers handpicked by the aforementioned Dictator For Life to constitute a Fake Board Of Directors and rubber-stamp everything the Dictator For Life does, has done, will do.
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Sociopaths of a feather...
Donald Trump - 2016/07/21

I alone can fix it.
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Bob Kuczewski - 2010/08/13

Is there a Board of Directors for the US Hawks?
Not yet. The HGAA's early problems arose because different people wanted to take the organization in different directions. That created power stuggles which cost the HGAA some of its early leadership. For now, I'm going to take the US Hawks in the direction that I believe is right. If people want to go along, then they're welcome. If not, there are at least two other alternatives. :)
Donald Trump - 2005/10

Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1252
Bill Cosby speaks his mind
Bob Kuczewski - 2013/04/26 05:37:14 UTC

Bill Cosby is a national hero for trying to save so many wasted lives. Go Bill, Go!! Image
Interesting affinity you have for serial rapists, Bob.

Whether or not the absolutely unthinkable comes to pass at the end of the day this country - and thus planet - is in serious trouble. When the truth is whatever some deranged megalomaniac feels like saying it is at any given three second interval and a totally contradictory statement from some other recent three second interval doesn't matter in the least...
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Re: The Bob Show

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Tad wrote:From my perspective the mission of Kite Strings has (d)evolved since its inception over half a dozen years ago. The original goal/hope was to reform the sport. "We" now understand why things are like they are and that reform on any significant scale is not a possibility. I now see the primary mission as doing as much damage as possible to the corrupt commercial motherfuckers who hijacked the sport from the recreational pilot decades ago - and ditto for their enablers (99 percent of current participants).
There are many people who want to reform the sport. You've alienated almost all of them ... making the job that much harder.

USHPA's monopoly is at the heart of the problem. You won't reform the sport until that monopoly grip is loosened. Every time you fire a shot at any USHPA competitor, you also shoot your self (and your goal of reform) in the foot. There's nothing that makes the USHPA insiders happier than seeing their critics fighting among themselves.

Your posting of the Brad Geary frames, on the other hand, was excellent. Thanks for making that major effort.
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Re: The Bob Show

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bobk wrote:There are many people who want to reform the sport.
Tad Eareckson wrote:...reform on any significant scale is not a possibility.
Reform? Trump wants to reform the tax code.
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