The Bob Show

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=912
Safe-Splat

Sam Kellner - 2012/01/19 01:35:01 UTC

Hi Bill,

The pilot/student seemed to be keeping the glider level. That's a good thing. I surely agree that you always have to be ready for a premature release.

Yeah Sam. Especially when you don't have a fuckin' clue what you're using for a weak link.

The scooter operator seemed to be the contributing cause.

Right. Had absolutely nothing to do with the weak link because there's just no possible way you can prevent those from blowing. So you always hafta be ready for them.

First, the glider was too high to be a low&slow method.

And, obviously, the game plan for this flight was to keep it low and slow.

Then, when the pitch up occured, the operator throttled back too much.

Yeah, you always wanna gas it when a student pitches up abruptly. That way he'll have more altitude available to recover from the whipstall WHEN the weak link blows.

Seems to me if the operator towed with enough force to ger the glider that far off the ground, cutting the throttle completely was a mistake.

He didn't cut the throttle completely, you moron. You can see the flag on the end of the towline fluttering away after the separation.

I've seen a Reg11 instructor make some bad errors as operator.

Hang gliding towing IS one massive bad error - thanks to assholes like you.

Once, immediately after release, reduced throttle resulted in the glider hitting the drogue. Luckily nothing tangled.

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24096
Leakey, Tx and Pack Saddle video clip of flight

Al Hernandez - 2011/06/25 06:01:41 UTC

On one of his not counted flight, Martin broke a weaklink at 80 feet. He flew way off to the right side of the runway, the glider flew over the airport fence and the trees and house. He managed to get his Falcon in control and landed safely back on runway... WHAT A RUSH! What can I say? Shit Happens.

Yeah, Region 11. But what are ya gonna do?

[bobk]

Hi Tad,

I think I've been misunderstanding your pathology. I had thought it was dominantly an emotional control issue, but I may have underestimated the contribution of your obvious reading and comprehension disorders.

Then, when the pitch up occured, the operator throttled back too much.

Yeah, you always wanna gas it when a student pitches up abruptly.

I don't see any place where Sam said to "gas it". He said the operator "throttled back too much". Those are not the same things Tad.

I suspect that your inability to actually read what people have written is combining with your hatred for anyone who you feel has disrespected you. This results in an increasing tendency to see what you want to see and a decreasing ability for you to actually understand what people are saying to you. The spiral gets worse and worse as your mental image of people strays further and further from the truth. This is exacerbated by your need for confirmation of your believed superiority.

Please try to work on these issues Tad because I believe you have a lot to contribute to the sport of hang gliding if you can overcome these disabilities.

[Tad Eareckson]

I think I've been misunderstanding your pathology.

Don't worry about it. Thousands of people have and are.

I had thought it was dominantly an emotional control issue, but I may have underestimated the contribution of your obvious reading and comprehension disorders.

Yeah? Really strange the way none of those standardized tests I used to take pointed to those problems. Oh well, must've smoked too much weed in college.

Those are not the same things Tad.

The thing is the throttle guy did fine.

- The student (it's a pretty safe bet he's a student) let the glider pitch up excessively.

- The throttle guy eased off a bit - as he should have - but didn't cut power.

- The student COULD have pulled in (he could've pulled in a lot easier if he had dolly launched (prone - with his hands on the basetube (and a finger on the trigger))) and gotten back under control.

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24846
Is this a joke ?

Jim Rooney - 2011/08/26 02:44:10 UTC

The "purpose" of a weaklink is to increase the safety of the towing operation. PERIOD.

4. But the fuckin' weak link totally unnecessarily increased the safety of the towing operation. PERIOD.

Donnell Hewett - 1981/05

Now I've heard the argument that "Weak links always break at the worst possible time, when the glider is climbing hard in a near stall situation," and that "More people have been injured because of a weak link than saved by one."

5. And it did so at the worst possible time, when the glider was climbing hard in a near stall situation.

6. EXACTLY as would have Peter's lunatic Pitch and Lockout Limiter.

7. And THAT'S when things got irretrievably out of control and ugly.

This is exacerbated by your need for confirmation of your believed superiority.

1. There's absolutely NOTHING "believed" about my superiority in hang gliding.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=822
US Hawks Hook-In Verification Poll

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/11/07 05:42:59 UTC

Sam, you are quite a genius!!

2. There's also absolutely NOTHING about superiority in hang gliding worth writing home about. I'm here 'cause all you need to blow assholes like your genius buddy out of the water is ten year old kid common sense.

Please try to work on these issues Tad because I believe you have a lot to contribute to the sport of hang gliding if you can overcome these disabilities.

1. I dunno... There are a few people here who don't seem to be all that worried about my disabilities and pathologies and are learning some stuff that's very difficult to get anywhere in mainstream hang gliding and some stuff that's impossible to get ANYWHERE else.

2. I've ALREADY contributed a lot to the sport of hang gliding WITH - and BECAUSE OF - these disabilities and pathologies.

3. What do you care anyway? The organization you're trying to build will just piss all over everything I have to offer the same way the people with whom your filling its ranks have been doing for decades in the mainstream. And you'll ensure a constant stream using majority rule with no respect or protections whatsoever for science, basic aviation theory, or minority persons or positions.

Preflight, Hangcheck, Know you're hooked in!

[Steve Davy]

The organization you're trying to build...

Bob's not trying to build an organization. He is trying to form a cult that worships him.

[Tad Eareckson]

Yeah, but I'm not sure there are enough Sam Kellners out there for him to get much beyond his current level of success. And cloning is so expensive and time consuming.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26381
Packsaddle, near Austin, Texas, closed

Chris Zimmerman - 2012/01/18 20:13:28 UTC

The Austin Free Flight Association was unable to secure the lease for Packsaddle for 2012. The road to the top is no longer being maintained by a government agency since they have abandoned the radio tower on the hill. The land owners are requiring us to maintain the road with a contractor of their choosing. The members made an offer that was substantially higher than last year's lease but not quite what the owners were asking for. It was rejected.

The owners compared us to the hunting lease that they have. Apparently we are getting off way too cheap in relation to hunters and we are more of a pain. Most of our members agreed to $300 in dues for Pack this year. With the road repair, it would have taken much more. Of course, as the price goes up, the number of pilots will go down and we could not make it happen.

I would suspect that even at $300 per year Pack would be one of the most expensive hills to fly in the US. Also don't forget that launch is only 400 feet and the ridge is small. On light days, three gliders could be a crowd. The main launch is good and is south - southeast facing to the LZ. The north/northeast ramp is not as good and most pilots didn't fly it. Pack was good for students learning to fly and helped attract pilots to the sport. Like many others, I had my first altitude flight at Pack. It will be missed.

Dorothy - 2012/01/19 14:46:35 UTC

There is much more to the story. The north ramp is actually a very nice ramp and has seen several century flights. It is an H3 launch. Many pilots did not understand how nice the north side is. The north ridge at Pack is actually taller and wider than the south face. Also, since it was typically flown during the cooler months, the cool dense air provided very nice lift. The owners cut back our year significantly several years ago in favor of hunting. These were the months the wind blew north the most.

In the old days, we knew the owners and interacted with them on a regular basis. In recent years this was not so much the case. Also, the ownership structure of the land changed and one of the new decision makers just seemed to have it out for us.

Just over a year ago, we had our first HG death at Pack in over thirty years of flying there. Besides being a terrible loss, this could not have helped make the owners comfortable.

I personally believe that the loss of county road maintenance was just the perfect excuse the owners needed to run us off. In short, the owners said we were more trouble than it was worth to lease the hill to us.

There are no other dependable accessible ridge sites within 250 miles of Austin. For all intents and purposes, foot launch free flight in central Texas is dead.

Bummer...

Steve Davy - 2012/01/22 04:55:33 UTC

More info here.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=903
The hole in Tx's arm where all the $$ goes

John Seward's death at Packsaddle didn't help with negotiations.

Foot Launch - 2012/01/22 16:09:53 UTC

The fatality had nothing to do with negotiations.

But it may have been something of a factor in triggering the negotiations and establishing the owners' terms.

It is a simple case of a fractionation of the local flying community and lack of relationship building with the owners.

Become a nameless, faceless entity, and don't be surprised when you get treated like one.

In regards to comments on weather and unpredictability, you can trace those comments back to pilots that are green or just plain not very good at forecasting.

There are competent HG and PG pilots that hit cloud base there on a regular basis.

I am hopeful negotiations will move forward in the future.

Don't hold your breath.

As far as posting to that other forum, wow! What a bunch of drama queens!

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=948
Landing technique

Sam Kellner - 2012/01/22 17:43:56 UTC

This is a good read. Rooney describes several landing techniques, after Davis' comment about pilots at the preworld lacking in landing ability.
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26379
Landings

This is the video of the "trim+1" method. Root stalls before the tips. If you don't stall the tips with an agressive flare, WHACK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjHqdmUAAFo


Hope this is useful. Thanks, Jim.

Terry Mason - 2012/01/23 16:54:58 UTC

Man, what an excellant Training method, we need to put this in the Manual section, Maybe we can recrute JimR. to help out with that. Later, Terry

Yeah Bob, get the little shit into your cult. You two will get along famously and he'll really fit in great with the kinds of assholes you're using and trying to attract to fill your ranks and slide into positions of power to establish policy. (Not that you'll ever actually have any more power than you do now. (And I'm gonna do everything I possibly can to make sure things stay that way. (And you recruting JimR. will really help out with that.)))

Zack C - 2011/08/26 00:20:56 UTC

Wow. The irony. The arrogance. And people call Tad arrogant...I can see why you have so much contempt for this guy, Tad.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=929
Training Manual Comments / Contribution

Terry Mason - 2012/01/24 21:29:18 UTC

The recent posts on landing tech. by Jim Rooney are the best I've seen, we should have them in the Manual, as well as recruiting Jim as a contributor to this effort. Also Ryan Voit's article in the Hang gliding mag. was excellent in reference to takeoffs, I'm not sure what Dennis Pagen will say to a request for help, however He is the one I learned from, in His hang gliding instruction booklets. Later, Terry

Yep... Jim, Dennis, and Ryan. Can't do much better than that combination of stooges!

Do you actually believe that:

- Jim gives a rat's ass about this joke of an "organization" - even if I got a knife in the back from Bob; and
- guys who get published in the magazine - one of them pretty much a lifelong USHGA professional - give as much of a rat's ass?

Bob Kuczewski - 2012/01/24 21:40:46 UTC

Hi Terry,

You might contact Jim Rooney and ask him about this.

I don't know where you might have found his information, but you might be able to contact him through either the Oz Report forum or hanggliding.org's forum.

Thanks in advance!!

Better stick with The Davis Show. Those two assholes get along just fine. Rooney's not on such great terms with the other asshole. (And it's pretty stunning that you don't even know that 'cause we discussed it at some length.)

[Tad Eareckson]

If you go to:

Official US Hawks Membership List

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=21

Bob has a lovely little bar graph showing the:

Membership history of the US Hawks Forum

illustrating the slow but steady growth of his forum.

Of course that's pretty much all it CAN show - barring total stagnation. And total stagnation is unlikely 'cause if John Heiney registers for the sole purpose of making a single post to see if anyone in Southern California might have a Falcon 170 he'd be willing to part with for the benefit of one of John's students we see growth.

What we don't and - for all intents and purposes - can't see from a graphic like that is erosion off the left side of any of those bars. The only ways those bars can get shorter are if the registrant goes to the trouble of taking himself off the list or if Bob feels like pulling his plug.

If I get bored enough I might make my own little bar graph which chops off people when no pulse has been detected for a year. Would be very interesting to do a side by side comparison. I think it's a pretty safe bet that nothing current or anything in the future will make it out of single digits.

Anxiously awaiting Bob's next bar graph which will - no doubt - depict the meteoric rise he predicted would result from him pulling my plug about a month and a half ago to make his forum safe for people of varying ages and idiots to post without fear of contradiction or criticism.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18811
Is Bob a lunatic?

Bob Kuczewski - 2010/02/03 18:53:08 UTC

Jim Rooney - 2010/02/03 18:36:45 UTC

I wish I could sift out all the BS.
Unfortunately without being a local, that's not possible.

For me it's like watching a divorce hearing.
Both sides are posturing and there's a lot of anger and spite at the table.

Too much noise for me.
Jim

That's how they win.

Give me a call any time Jim. My number is 858-204-7499. You've posted a lot of great stuff to these forums, and I'll always find time for you.

Sincerely,
Bob Kuczewski