http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=877
Discuss Tad here
Bob Kuczewski - 2017/05/07 20:06:24 UTC
Cinco de Mayo 2017
This summer will be the 7th anniversary of the founding of the US Hawks. A lot of history has flowed through this site in that 7 years.
In and out with close to zilch in the way of positive impact on anything - and tons of negative.
The sentiments expressed by Warren above are consistent with my own view. I don't wish ill on anyone, including Tad.
But you're totally OK with actually CAUSING it.
And from time to time I stop by his site (kitestrings.org)...
Zack C was the founder and there are several Administrators, Moderators.
...to see how things are going.
How are they going? Any revised thoughts on inconvenience stalls now that the proven system that works has fallen to the Tad-O-Links many of us are now happy with?
I hadn't posted there in years (he's banned me on and off)...
I didn't really ban you on and off. I banned you and later restored your account on the condition that you didn't post as a courtesy. I can't see you ever becoming member material.
...but I recently saw this snippet in one of Tad's posts:
Tad Eareckson on March 6th, 2017 (topic: Re: open phones) wrote:From my perspective the mission of Kite Strings has (d)evolved since its inception over half a dozen years ago. The original goal/hope was to reform the sport. "We" now understand why things are like they are and that reform on any significant scale is not a possibility. I now see the primary mission as doing as much damage as possible to the corrupt commercial motherf***ers who hijacked the sport from the recreational pilot decades ago - and ditto for their enablers (99 percent of current participants).
That post also mentioned that Tad had "
entered a phase of serious burnout (and (even more) substantial depression) months ago".
I couldn't help but feel sorry for Tad, and I know how hard it's been to reform the sport of hang gliding
Into what? List some things that you're doing BETTER than u$hPa and the Jack and Davis Shows.
...(believe me, I really know).
The work of a dictator is never easy - or done.
I had originally invited Tad to join us in 2010, but as time went on, his desire for doing damage to 99% of hang gliding participants (the last sentence in his quote) became all too apparent.
- I was a bit slow in picking up that it was 99 percent and that you were a big part of it.
- Oh. So that's why you banned me. And here I was thinking that...
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=884
The Bob Show
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/13 05:55:39 UTC
If I boot you permanently it will be due to my concerns over the topic we discussed on the phone. This forum should be a safe place for people of varying ages to visit. You have not given me any assurances that's true with you on this forum.
...it was to make The Bob show a safe place for people of varying ages to visit.
And notice this:
If I boot you permanently...
PERMANENTLY. You've already decided that there's ZERO chance of me reforming my viewpoint, attitude, what-the-fuck-ever to anything that would fall within the confines of the Sterling Bob Show Standards you have for all your members. Life without parole on your say-so alone and without any pretense of a jury or panel. And this because of a fairly happy consensual relationship now over four decades ago - well over half my lifetime in the past.
- So in the course of your near seven year history can you document the visitation of The Bob Show by a single person of a varying age?
- And can you cite any studies confirming that Bob Show inconvenience stalls are as harmless to people of varying ages as they are for people of similar ages?
Even so, and after many years of not posting to KiteStrings, I broke...
...the conditions under which Tad had restored my access to Kite Strings...
...my silence with the following post to that same KiteStrings topic ("open phones"):
Bob Kuczewski on May 5th, 2017 (topic: Re: open phones) wrote:
The topic is not "
Re: open phones, Bob. It's "open phones".
Tad wrote:From my perspective...
Yeah, you already quoted that paragraph just above. You don't need to quote your quote of it.
There are many people who want to reform the sport. You've alienated almost all of them ... making the job that much harder.
I don't see how. If I'm alienating almost all people in the sport who want to reform it shouldn't they be flocking to The Bob Show - their only other option - in droves?
USHPA's monopoly is at the heart of the problem. You won't reform the sport until that monopoly grip is loosened. Every time you fire a shot at any USHPA competitor, you also shoot your self (and your goal of reform) in the foot. There's nothing that makes the USHPA insiders happier than seeing their critics fighting among themselves.
Your posting of the Brad Geary frames, on the other hand, was excellent. Thanks for making that major effort.
In short order Tad's gang was on the attack.
Ooh! I've got a gang! Cool!
Even worse, a number of posts (including mine, but not Tad's that I'd quoted)...
The one from two months prior that was a response to an issue Jan raised.
...were moved to another topic ("The Bob Show").
The horror.
This took them completely out of context...
COMPLETELY. There was pretty much no making sense of anything after that - 'specially after he transcribed every other paragraph into Mandarin.
- How the hell was anything taken out of context when:
-- the paragraph you just quoted for the third time was included in your initial post?
-- your statement was perfectly clear as a stand-alone anyway?
-- I documented the history of the transfer?
- Why do you think it is that the two other participants in the relevant discussion - Brian and Steve - aren't similarly all bent out of shape about the obfuscation of their posts? Think they're afraid of being kicked out of Tad's gang?
...and made them very difficult to follow.
- How do you know, Bob? You yourself have just given a detailed accounting of the actions and timeline. Quote some total fucking moron complaining that he's having difficulty following the discussion?
- Let's say there is some total fucking moron too fucking stupid to be able to easily follow the discussion. Do we really want more Sam Kellner caliber total fucking morons participating in the sport and relevant discussions? How many more do you think the sport can withstand?
I protested...
...again in violation of the terms of my access...
...in the original ("open phones") topic:
Bob Kuczewski on May 5th, 2017 (topic: Re: open phones) wrote:For the record ... my posts to this topic (which were in direct response to Tad's post above) have been moved to another topic.
Which any interested reader would already know. And fuck any noninterested reader anyway.
Mutilation of history often starts with the smallest of steps.
That post brought this reply from the screen name of "Steve Davy":
"Screen name?" motherfucker? The implication being that it could be / probably is a fake ID?
Steve Davy on May 5th, 2017 (topic: Re: open phones) wrote:Post in "The Bob Show" thread if you're going to post on this site, Bob. If you choose to post in any other threads I will kick you out of here.
"Steve Davy" will kick me out of KiteStrings?
Yeah Bob...
- There's more than one individual with powers on par with Tad in Tad's dictatorship.
- "Steve Davy". Probably just some other sock puppet of Tad's.
You were already kicked out of Kite Strings - 2012/05/07 12:38:07 UTC. Talk about taking things out of context? The whole premise of your discussion is grotesquely out of context.
My reply was short and to the point:
Bob Kuczewski on May 5th, 2017 (topic: Re: open phones) wrote:Go ahead. Show everyone what this site is really all about.
That's when Tad jumped in with a typically long post...
Yeah Bob:
http://www.kitestrings.org/post10141.html#p10141
Something on the order of a dozen short sentences plus a quote of the "love Bob or leave The Bob Show" segment of your Constitution. Long post. 'Specially for the ten second attention span dregs to whom you cater. Compare/Contrast with the crap you're writing in this one.
...that started out with this:
Tad Eareckson on May 5th, 2017 (topic: Re: open phones) wrote:OK Bob. Done. 2017/05/05 12:11:25 UTC.
...
That's how I was banned from KiteStrings on Cinco de Mayo, 2017.
Fuck you. See above.
If you read the actual topics, it can be a bit hard to follow since the posts had been moved around.
You're LYING.
It's also hard to know if any of the content had been (or will be) altered.
- Why? You can't remember the substance of what you and others said? Maybe you should ease up on the distortions and misrepresentations a bit. Makes it a lot easier when you're being consistently and conscientiously honest and accurate. Ask somebody who is sometime - if you're on speaking terms with any such individuals. Or talk to Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney who did nothing but lie and was caught in so many 180 degree contradictions that he can no longer post anything anywhere.
- If you weren't the sleazy motherfucker we know you to be you'd keep a record of exactly what was said and it would be brain dead easy to detect where typo, spelling, grammar errors had been corrected; clarifications had been made; formatting had been standardized. Then you could go screaming to your douchebag membership about Kite Strings' systematic mutilation of history.
But that's what's happening at KiteStrings.
You got us, Bob. We're always working overtime to cast you in the worst possible light by misrepresenting your statements and actions, obliterating context, altering the historical record. What you've just posted just scratches the surface. You could easily show numerous examples of stuff about which somebody actually gave a rat's ass but you just don't have the time. So just plant the suggestion without the slightest scrap of actual evidence from Kite Strings' archive of over ten thousand posts and walk away.
As I said at the beginning, I do have some sympathy for Tad.
I'm touched. Life without the possibility of parole. Just think how ugly things could get if you DIDN'T have SOME sympathy for Tad.
I've watched you very carefully for a long time, Bob. My take is that you're a sociopath without the capability of having any real sympathy for anyone or anything - 'specially after how you treated Brad Geary and what you assholes did to him. Also life without parole for having violated ZERO SOPs.
He's also trying to reform a sport controlled by the powerful insiders at USHPA.
And what do you think I'm getting out of the deal? What's my motivation supposed to be? Nothing was stopping me from flying all the sites - mostly Woodstock, McConnellsburg - before the now extinct motherfuckers of Highland Aerosports suddenly decided they wanted to make Ridgely a safe place for people of varying ages to visit. I decided then that I never again wanted anything to do with motherfuckers and dickheads that control and populate the sport. So what is it I'm supposed to be deriving from misrepresenting your statements and actions and distorting the historical record?
But we part company...
We parted company fairly early in our relationship in 2011.
...at Tad's need to take pot shots at others who are similarly working for reform.
Backwards reform. Replace u$hPa's elected and voting Board of Directors with Emperor Bob's appointed Fake Board of Directors whose fake votes can be overridden by Emperor Bob at any time for any reason he feels like.
The US Hawks are not Tad's enemy, and I don't see Tad (or KiteStrings) as our enemy.
Thanks for treating me like a friend, Bob.
But somehow Tad can't get past his need to tear us down because we don't agree on everything.
There's pretty much nothing we agree on, Bob. Think of me as the ACLU defending your right to slap on a swastika armband and march down the streets of Skokie, Illinois.
I think that's short-sighted and destructive of the reform efforts in general.
I'm seeing zilch in the way of reform efforts and way less in the way of reform substance.
I would welcome a change, but I'm not expecting it.
- After what you did to me back in 2011? No, probably not a good idea to start holding your breath.
- So you admit to the possibility of a change in THIS regard but five and a half years ago you decided to ban me PERMANENTLY on the premise that I was incapable of any change in your direction.
I don't want to get into a long drawn out discussion about Tad and KiteStrings (there's been enough of that already).
- Yes, I see you haven't played the unrepentant child molester card on this volley. Glaringly conspicuous absence.
- We're having a long drawn out discussion about Tad and Kite Strings and Bob and The Bob Show - AGAIN - because you don't wanna do or say anything that smacks too much of substantive reality.
But I did want to document what's happened...
...and insinuate that other stuff has happened, is happening, will happen...
...so people can get a better view of the sad state of hang gliding forums.
- Rather than send them to the Jack and Davis Shows and all the vile little club dumps like Capitol, Rocky Mountain, Sonoma, Grebloville. They'd really have to go to Kite Strings to get a really good view of the sad state of hang gliding forums. (Notice the way Bob picks his target based on the number of flyers he's gonna be alienating? Tiny handful of posters widely scattered around the planet, lots of them marginalized already anyway.) If we had a just a dozen or two regular participants his tone would change dramatically.
- People who can't be bothered to click over to Kite Strings and get a 100.00 percent accurate view of the sad state of hang gliding forums - people who need a better view filtered by Bob's editing, characterizations, insinuations.
Thanks to Rick for starting this "Discuss Tad here" topic back in 2011.
Yeah Bob...
Rick Masters - 2011/12/05 19:57:42 UTC
If everyone who wants to discuss Tad will do it here, it will make the forum available and useful to any of us who have Tad on ignore.
I have found that I tend to visit US Hawks a lot less when every topic is saturated with long and sometimes offensive and discourteous posts by someone I have no interest in reading. It's a shame to let the forum be destroyed this way - especially when the forum plays such an important role in the formation of the US Hawks right now. If folks would just post their responses to Tad here, I really think it would help US Hawks move forward.
I have no intention of participating on this topic. The room needed a trash can, that's all.
Of course, I may be alone on this. This may be the Tad Fan Club. If so, disregard this note.
And do say hi to Rick for me while you're relaying my message that he can suck my dick.
When I went looking for a place to put this recent news, I searched for "Tad" in topic titles (titles only). Here's what I found:
- Tad's nightmare post (tough on server) by Bob Kuczewski - Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:05 pm
Deliberately offensive title. The stuff in parentheses was amended after my complaint and still implies that that Yours Truly did something inappropriate. It was a software bug that made life miserable for Yours Truly. The server suffered zero frustration and loss of useful lifespan.
- Input from Tad please. by Bill Cummings - Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:58 pm
- Discussion with Tad about Towing / Foot Launch by TadEareckson - Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:53 pm
Bob's title - not mine. Didn't like it then and don't now.
- Perpetrates the stupidity that the flight mode - free or tow - can be divined if one knows the launch method.
- I don't like discussions WITH anybody who's supposed to be a revered expert on something. I like discussions of issues amongst reasonably competent participants.
- Tad Eareckson ...an ongoing project by Nobody - Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:42 pm
The title isn't "Steve Davy"'s. It's a quote from Joe Faust.
- I don't wanna be an "ongoing project". The stuff that I've developed should've been implemented decades ago.
- Joe Faust:
-- did nothing to oppose your sleazy banning of me
-- was a member of the Fake Board which rubber stamped its approval of your sleazy banning of me
-- has NEVER fought worth a damn for implementation of anything I've developed
- Discuss Tad here by Rick Masters - Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:57 pm
Suck my dick here, Rick and Bob.
- Tad Towing Winch Kingsville by DarthVader - Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:53 pm
- Tad by DarthVader - Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:07 pm
- Complaints about Tad by Jacmac - Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:36 am
Spoof.
- Review of Tad Eareckson's Ban from US Hawks by Bob Kuczewski Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:06 pm
- Bullshit farce.
- Suck my dick, Bob.
- Fuck y'all who went along with that obscene charade of a pretense of process.
Somehow the one titled: "Discuss Tad here" was as appropriate as I could find.
Goddam right, Bob. I DO find it totally infuriating.
Thanks Rick.
Intelligent, polished, moderately articulate version of Trump. One of a kind in the history of hang gliding. MASSIVE waste of time cracking his code / documenting his pure unadulterated manipulative bullshit. So frustrating because there’s never a trace of any honest dialogue - says NOTHING that he hasn't predetermined will be useful for some self empowering objective. Don't EVER start feeling relaxed in a discussion with this motherfucker. He's a real master of saying things that sound like what it is you wanna hear while in effect saying nothing of committed substance at all.
Gawd how I miss Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney. Tried to play a similar game but didn't have the brains, memory, vocabulary, political calculation skills of a halfway intelligent kindergartener with fetal alcohol syndrome. Couldn't get out more than a sentence and a half without shooting himself in a foot.
No response to his post over there as of this one. Guess they all have figured out that there's no substance to anything he's saying. 4473 hits at the moment.