Doh! My worst landing ever, caught on tape.
Why? So he's certain to have the option of doing even more stupid dangerous shit when he needs to be landing the fucking glider?Avolare - 2014/03/17 01:44:37 UTC
You should unzip sooner.
No you didn't.haddieman - 2014/03/17 02:13:47 UTC
Nashville
I made a very similar poor approach once:
1:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0oe5fljLcc
That was a fundamental inability to fly the fucking glider.The important thing is to recognize what you did wrong and do your best to never let it happen again. Don't beat yourself up too much. We all make mistakes. Use it as a learning opportunity and become a better pilot because of it.
He was goddam lucky...Mike Bomstad - 2014/03/17 02:16:38 UTC
Yes beat yourself up..... a lot
Dont let it happen again. Could have been worse. You got lucky.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c87vgq5ZFU0
11-A12819
http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8339/28924980016_2ba1d20ef7_o.png
http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8253/28924975726_0d24a615c2_o.png
13-A14319
...he was connected to his glider. But no comment needed on that issue, Wonder Boy?
That's infinitely better than you'll ever be able to do.Learn the lesson and do better next time. Thats all we can do.
Maybe he should be a bit worried about comments he's not hearing from people Jack doesn't permit to post.Glad you posted and asked for comments.
Twisting your body under the hang point isn't fun. Controlling a glider is fun.Chris Kelcourse - 2014/03/17 02:25:50 UTC
Thanks guys, I knew the feedback would be harsh but I wanted to get it anyway. I did notice I was cross controlling a good bit. As for me "going for a ride" during the flight, that was planned. I had a number of flights that day and I was just having some fun at a safe altitude.
The mistakes started at 0:49 when your foot moved. That one killed you and the rest aren't worth talking about by comparison.The mistakes really started when I started planning my landing approach and continued when I failed to see what was happening.
The "instructors" at LMFP ARE your mistakes.As always I discussed this flight with the instructors at LMFP and will learn from my mistakes.
What were you using for a weak link?I was the PIC of two tandem aerotows...
You were told by your slope launch instructor that you were ready to solo. You weren't....after this flight which went perfectly and I was told by the instructor I'm ready to solo, so obviously I'm not awful at this flying business.
Learning to do what? Fuck the training hills at this point. You can break an arm on one of them just as well as you can break an arm landing in the primary. You might as well get a little air under you so you can play around and learn to fly.I do continue to practice at the training hills, in fact I was there the morning of this flight.
Yeah, no fuckin' way anybody'd be able to figure out what to do without an instructor.K C Benn - 2014/03/17 02:33:44 UTC
Ogden
Wow It was a long time ago since I was an H2 so I wont judge you. It is important that you go back to your instructor and tell him you are cross controlling your glider (Your body shifts but your really not creating a turn).
Never turn downwind when you are that close to the ground without any airspeed. Never GET that close to the ground without any airspeed - regardless of which direction you're pointed. And bear in mind that gradient may make the consequences of a downwind stall much less of a big fucking deal than those of an upwind stall.Keep your body perpendicular to you control bar. Never turn downwind when you are that close to the ground (you had plenty of room to land into the wind without another turn).
Why?1. unzip sooner. 2. rock up and get your hands on your uprights 1 at a time.
Yeah. Get your hands up on the downtubes at shoulder or ear height...3. Tell your glider you are the boss (you fly the glider don't let the glider fly you).
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27086
Steve Pearson on landings
...and let that glider - and Mother Nature - know who's REALLY in charge.Steve Pearson - 2012/03/28 23:26:05 UTC
I can't control the glider in strong air with my hands at shoulder or ear height and I'd rather land on my belly with my hands on the basetube than get turned downwind.
Find a mentor who will tell you to distance yourself from your instructors.Thanks for sharing. Keep close to your instructor and find a mentor.
What rhymes do you use for turning a bicycle?CAL - 2014/03/17 02:51:19 UTC
Ogden
thanks for posting ! there is a rhyme for everything, the one I use to roll the glider is hip to the tip...
Yeah, he's sure been taking some REALLY NASTY......glad to see you have thick skin and still willing to talk to us after all the hits you took...
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30971
Zach Marzec
Jim Rooney - 2013/02/11 19:22:18 UTC
Of course not... it's Asshole-ese.
Sorry, I'm sick and tired of all these soap box bullshit assheads that feel the need to spout their shit at funerals. I just buried my friend and you're seizing the moment to preach your bullshit? GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!!!!!!
I can barely stand these pompus asswipes on a normal day.
...hits. Just breaks my heart to see the way he's being treated.Jim Rooney - 2013/03/07 18:24:58 UTC
Go back to Tad's hole in the ground.
While you're there, ask him why he was banned from every east coast flying site.
What does this video:...that right there tells me you will be a fine pilot, keep with it !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i4owd0akd0
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8394/8696380718_787dbc0005_o.png
tell you about what kind of pilot Zack Marzec will be?
BULL...Christopher Albers - 2014/03/17 12:14:20 UTC
Lawrenceville, Georgia
Everyone has pretty much covered what happened.
http://www.hanggliding.org/wiki/HG_ORG_Mission_Statement
HG ORG Mission Statement - Hang Gliding Wiki
...SHIT.HangGliding.Org Rules and Policies
No posts or links about Bob K, Scott C Wise, Tad Eareckson and related people, or their material. ALL SUCH POSTS WILL BE IMMEDIATELY DELETED. These people are poison to this sport and are permanently banned from this site in every possible way imaginable.
As an inexperienced and clueless "pilot" yourself you should shut the fuck up.As an inexperienced pilot myself, all I can say is never turn that close to the ground!
Like pro towing:Stuff like that is for the pros...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9Ek9_lFeSII/UZ4KuB0MUSI/AAAAAAAAGyU/eWfhGo4QeqY/s1024/GOPR5278.JPG
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3725/9665623251_612b921d70_o.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Xh_NfnOcUns/UZ4Lm0HvXnI/AAAAAAAAGyk/0PlgrHfc__M/s1024/GOPR5279.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bRrpHNa68iY/UQ6Pv9gRZyI/AAAAAAAAjTg/Hc22bx5122Q/s2048/20943781_BG1.jpg
In REAL aviation the strategy is to get you duplicating what the "pros" are doing from Day One, Flight One. You need to be looking at what the best of the best...
http://vimeo.com/36062225
13-3826
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2928/14023968220_1a5cf14aa5_o.png
1:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-8oVEo8ybA
40-12812
42-13014
...are actually doing and constantly working your way towards it.
EVERYBODY *ALWAYS* needs to make the envelope as big as possible for the critical phases of flight - launch and landing. And the main issues involved in doing that are:we newbies need to make the envelope as big as possible until we become competent and experienced pilots.
- going off and coming in with as much speed as practical
- minimizing or eliminating the time your hands aren't on the basetube
- maximizing:
-- efficiency of runway use
-- the range of options
Competent pilots - experienced or not - DO NOT...
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=26854
Skids versus wheels
...use techniques highly dependent upon skill and/or luck...Andrew Stakhov - 2012/08/11 13:52:35 UTC
So I just came back from flying in Austria (awesome place btw). Stark difference I noticed is a large chunk of pilots choose to fly with skids instead of wheels. Conversations I had with pilots they say they actually work better in certain situations as they don't get plugged up like smaller wheels. Even larger heavier Atosses were all flying with skids. I was curious why they consistently chose to land on skids on those expensive machines and they were saying that it's just not worth the risk of a mistimed flare or wing hitting the ground... And those are all carbon frames etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46pvhPUM5-Q
...to pull things off and/or look cool.
He wasn't flying.I think you tried to make one DBF too many...
The maximum number of FINALS one can have on any given landing is ONE....you should have landed on the previous final into the wind.
You don't need groundspeed to land safely. The ideal groundspeed for landing safely is...You could have easily pulled in to lose altitude and had plenty of groundspeed to land safely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnpwVpT76Rs
...zero miles per hour. Works well for launching as well.
At Lockout? Nothing. Therefore you should always aim for the traffic cone in the middle of the field, treat the first half of the runway as nonexistent, and never practice the low fast turns you'll need for tight approaches into tight fields.So what if you go longer than planned?
Like this takeoff/landing:I'm glad you are OK, though. That could have ended much, much worse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYe3YmdIQTM
did for one of the late Mark Knight's students? Any ideas on anything that could be done different to widen the safety envelope a bit? Just kidding.
Yeah. If you had had more airspeed when you stalled the effects of that stall would've been horrendous. Just like if Bryan's weak link had been stronger the stall resulting from its failure would've been even more horrendous. So make sure you never come in with any more airspeed than you had and never use any weak link material heavier than 130 pound Greenspot.Even though you should have more speed when landing, you were lucky that you didn't.
But if you get tired of getting dumped into a stall every other tow just read Dr. Trisa Tilletti's article in the 2012/06 issue of the magazine so you can learn to tie it such that it holds to twice the strength of what numerous aerotow operators across the county found to be ideal over several decades of experience and hundreds of thousands of tows. Same level off lockout and glider stress protection but just half the inconvenience.