The Bob Show

[Tad Eareckson]

<BS> - 2017/06/19 17:56:29 UTC

Are you sure that's how he spells his real nane?

Bob Kuczewski - 2017/06/19 18:36:24 UTC

I believe it's the spelling used on hanggliding.org.

Not a real quick study, are ya Bob? Maybe your brain isn't getting enough oxygen. Been having any difficulty breeding lately?

If you have a suggested correction, it's certainly welcome. Tad is very thorough about naming names on this forum...

Those too.

...so you can check with him. Of all people, someone with moderator priviledges should be properly identified.

I didn't know who "sg" - sole "moderator" of "The worlds largest hang gliding community!" - was until you told me on the phone in early 2011.

<BS> - 2017/06/19 18:40:08 UTC

You've decided on one?

Bob Kuczewski - 2017/06/19 18:41:55 UTC

Check the topic on hanggliding.org or ushpa.aero and get back to me.

Or just go to:
http://www.ushpa.org/legacy/award_recipients.pdf
and check out the 2015 winner of the Bettina Gray Photography Award.

<BS> - 2017/06/19 18:59:55 UTC

What topic?

Bob Kuczewski - 2017/06/19 19:20:41 UTC

Tad posted a reference to it here:
...
It's a long topic and I don't have time to track it down.

And I don't have time to deal with trivial misrepresentative bullshit like this, Bob.

You can search for it if Jack hasn't covered it up already.

This:

...the Jack Show would have more integrity than the Tad Show?

Jack Show?

It is ironic that Tad goes to great lengths to find and expose the true identities of people on other forums, but he explicitly edits posts to protect the names of his cronies here on KiteStrings.

CRONIES? The implication being that I'm running a nefarious organization for the benefit and/or aggrandizement of myself and a chosen few? Got news for ya, Bob...

- This is primarily a whistleblower operation and participants don't go into it for the purposes of boosting their social standings, political and economic benefits, increases in opportunities to fly. They go into it for a love of the hang glider flavor of aviation and a desire to eliminate incompetence, corruption, criminal activity. And a lot of us have paid significant social and other prices for taking solid ethical stands on relevant issues.

- Check through the pre 2014/07/02 19:46:36 UTC archives here and tally up the times I referred to Jonathan as a motherfucker. He's here with moderator privileges 'cause Kite Strings is consistently solid on aeronautical issues and he's seen way too many of friends, acquaintances, unrelated individuals get needlessly mangled and killed due to corrupt mainstream operations like Tim Herr's and yours.

How is it ironic that I gun for mainstream scumbags who go to great lengths to shield their identities and moderate Kite Strings in accordance with the wishes of valuable contributing members?

Steve Davy - 2017/06/20 03:53:05 UTC

Edited Jonathan's last name out of three bobk posts. Banned bobk. 2017/06/20 03:52:41 UTC

Steve Davy - 2017/06/20 04:17:22 UTC

Make that four bobk posts. I had missed Bob's 2017/06/19 17:23:30 UTC post.

Good job. Bob's a classic sociopath and it's a draining monumental waste of time, energy, emotional resources dealing with him - as I'm sure he very well knows.

- Makes mountains out of trivial nonissues like the posting of Jonathan's last name, wouldn't acknowledge the existence of the Terry Mason and Zack Marzec negligent homicide fatalities with a gun to his head.

- Whenever he's on the RIGHT side of an issue:
-- it's only because he's personally negatively affected
-- he blends a few fully legitimate points with tons of totally sleazy misrepresentations

- Kite Strings has repeatedly provided him the courtesy of a fully reconnected wire and he's:
-- done absolute shit in the way of:
--- expressing appreciation
--- reciprocation
-- repeatedly abused the privilege

His wire stays cut this time - if I have anything to say about it.

Jonathan... It's a bit problematic dealing with your last name here since it's a central issue in this latest round of posts. Please let me know what, if anything, you'd like to see done by way of editing.

[Tad Eareckson]

Pending hearing from Jonathan on the issue I've gone through all relevant entries on Kite Strings and made a y/i substitution in correct and incorrect spellings of his last name. Jonathan's only concern was that he didn't want his name too easily searchable and that should do the trick.

And Bob... If you were really all that rabid about Jonathan being so positively identified all you had to do was post his ID back on The Bob Show and link to it. Of course you didn't do that 'cause your actual goals were to discredit and disrupt Kite Strings. No joy on the former, smashing success with the latter. Never again though.

[Tad Eareckson]

Bob Kuczewski - 2017/06/19 17:23:30 UTC

I edited Jonathan's last name out of your post because:
- he asked me not to use his full name on the forum because he didn't wish to be so easily googleable
- it's no great secret what his last name is to anybody in the game anyway

No problem. I edited it back in. You and I have had the courage to use our real nanes for decades. Who does Jonathan Deytch think he is that makes him so special?

You have no justification to liberally and abusively use the real names of everyone you hate and yet protect the likes of Jonathan Dyetch. Are you going to make a special Jonathan Dyetch rule? Are you going to re-re-ban me for using "Jonathan Dyetch"? So much for any credibility on this forum.

If Jonathan Dyetch has moderator priviledges ... be sure you're doing regular backups. He got an entire topic deleted from the SHGA to protect his negligence. One of the things that I've admired about your forum was the integrity you've had regarding people's posts. As far as I can tell you've had a perfect record ... until now. Such a shame to see you lose that for Jonathan Deytch ... especially when he allows his full name to be used on hanggliding.org. It's in the same topic quoted here. Who would have thought the Jack Show would have more integrity than the Tad Show?

Jonathan, Davis, Russell, Malcolm, Tracy, Jack, Ryan, Bob, Tad... Anybody in the game knows who you're talking about with just the first name.

Three words into Bob's quote from my prior post everyone knows who we're talking about. But Bob knows from that single sentence of mine that Jonathan doesn't want his last name used with his first on glider forums for reasons of his own. So in the course of fifteen short sentences uses first-with-last six and first-only zero times. And uses incorrect spellings of his last name on Entries One and Six and correct ones on Two, Three, Four, and Five. Hard to tell whether it's a literacy issue or he's just covering all of his bases 'cause he can't be bothered to verify what's correct.

Fuckin' Homosexual-Relationship-With-A-12-Year-Old-Boy spam redux. Total sociopath. Glad he's established his own lunatic colony in which he can amuse himself until the end of time. (And very interesting to note that he's to date made no reference to this interaction back at aforementioned lunatic colony.)

[NMERider]

Pending hearing from Jonathan on the issue I've gone through all relevant entries on Kite Strings and made a y/i substitution in correct and incorrect spellings of his last name. Jonathan's only concern was that he didn't want his name too easily searchable and that should do the trick.

And Bob... If you were really all that rabid about Jonathan being so positively identified all you had to do was post his ID back on The Bob Show and link to it. Of course you didn't do that 'cause your actual goals were to discredit and disrupt Kite Strings. No joy on the former, smashing success with the latter. Never again though.

Thanks Tad, You're a mensch!
So last year I show up at the Otto Lilienthal event at Dockweiller Beach near LAX where I suffer the great misfortune of running into Blob Screw Loose Key on the parking lot whereupon he approaches me all misty-eyed and accuses me of being a traitor because of some otherwise innocuous post I placed in contradiction to some trivial nonsense on the SHGA forum. What it was, I can't even recall. Nobody in his right mind reads anything Señor Tornillo Suelta Clave posts and if they do it is disregarded as the ranting or raving from a Monty Python skit that it is. I didn't mind being called a traitor so much as I just cringed in reaction to the tears welling up in his eyes. It was really quite creepy and placed a nauseating pall over the otherwise enjoyable event for me. I am somehow reminded of this skit that undoubtedly closely resembles a live meeting of the U.S. Hawks BOD....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdNCEL5JKF8

[Tad Eareckson]

Thanks Tad, You're a mensch!

Let's not forget Steve - who saved me the trouble (pleasure) of pulling his plug while I was out of touch for a string of critical hours.

Nobody in his right mind reads anything...

I feel I have to. Need to be able to understand how and what makes these sociopaths tick and how to neutralize them to the greatest extent possible.

... nauseating pall...

Nail on the head.

And now from down in the Bob Show Basement...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=877
Discuss Tad here

Bob Kuczewski - 2017/06/21 07:59:08 UTC

Once again, it brings me no pleasure to post in this topic. But I feel compelled to report that posts are now being changed on the KiteStrings forum in order to protect Tad's supporters like Jonathan Dyetch.

It's ironic that Tad has spent considerable effort to try to find (and post) the real names of anyone he doesn't like, but he will actually edit out the name "Dyetch" (or is it "Deytch"?) to protect one of his supporters. I dared to edit the name back into my post and I was instantly banned.

I've come to expect this from Jack Axaopoulos and Davis Straub, but it's sad to see Tad falling into that trap. Despite the many areas where Tad and I have disagreed, he's always been meticulous about preserving every punctuation mark on his site. It makes me wonder how Jonathan Dyetch has so much influence over him.

While the source of Jonathan's influence over Tad may remain a mystery, the thing I can report for certain is that posts on kitestrings.org have been altered against the wishes of the person making the post.

Once again, it brings me no pleasure...

Cool. Most stuff that brings you no pleasure brings me tons of it.

...to post in this topic. But I feel compelled...

Ever had a good shrink look into issues that result in you feeling compelled?

...to report that posts are now being changed on the KiteStrings forum in order to protect Tad's supporters like Jonathan Dyetch.

1. Are you sure that's how it's spelled?
2. Why, asshole? Anybody who goes to the trouble to read the posts finds that it's clearly stated:
- that changes were made
- why the changes were made
- exactly what the changes were
- where to easily find the original information

It's ironic that Tad has spent considerable effort to try to find (and post) the real names of anyone he doesn't like, but he will actually edit out the name "Dyetch" (or is it "Deytch"?)...

Wattsamattah, Bob? Too lazy, stupid, both to find and verify the spelling of the last name of a globally prominent participant in the sport?

...to protect one of his supporters.

1. From what?

2. Right. Kite Strings is all about a personality and its groupies. Nothing to do with people united around the issue of safe and competent aviation in hang gliding.

I dared to edit the name back into my post and I was instantly banned.

1. By whom, Bob? Tad or one of the eighteen other contributors with whom Tad shares control of Kite Strings?

2. No you weren't, motherfucker. You were banned 2012/05/07 12:38:07 UTC - over five years ago. But had your wire reconnected as a courtesy - a privilege you repeatedly abused and lost.

I've come to expect this from Jack Axaopoulos and Davis Straub, but it's sad to see Tad falling into that trap.

Oh my gawd, I've fallen into a trap. I've lost all my maneuvering capability.

Despite the many areas where Tad and I have disagreed...

...like fundamental aeronautical and engineering principles...

...he's always been meticulous about preserving every punctuation mark on his site.

Get fucked. I've just told you otherwise.

It makes me wonder how Jonathan Dyetch has so much influence over him.

He procures lotsa people of varying ages for me to exploit for my own perverted and predatory pleasures.

While the source of Jonathan's...

Oops. Missed an opportunity to spam your post with another inclusion of his full name.

...influence over Tad may remain a mystery...

Not any more. (Sorry, Jonathan.)

...the thing I can report for certain is that posts on kitestrings.org have been altered against the wishes of the person making the post.

Only one person - who wasn't authorized to make any posts in the first place. And no actual legitimate Kite Strings member seems to have the slightest problem with the action.

And all legitimate Kite Strings members have the ability to edit any of the posts and reverse any moderator edit any time they feel like it. Compare/Contrast with The Bob Show where members aren't allowed to fix their own typos beyond an hour from posting.

Also compare/contrast your mainstream glider forum sewers where:
- members get:
-- restricted to basements on the whims of dictators running "scientific experiments"
-- their posts:
--- removed from discussions by dictators on the whims of their subdictators
--- maliciously edited
--- deleted
-- banned outright for taking positions not supported by:
--- the relevant dictators
--- more than 49 percent of the membership
- threads get:
-- dumped into basements on whims of those in control
-- deleted outright in their entirety

OK Bob... Any thoughts on when I should check back at Your Basement to wade through the inevitable torrent of outrage expressed by Your Groupies?

[Steve Davy]

Most stuff the brings you no pleasure brings me tons of it.

That was how the sentence read before I edited it. Now it reads "Most stuff that brings you no pleasure brings me tons of it".

How many editors do you have, Bob?

[bobk]

For the record ... my posts to this topic (which were in direct response to Tad's post above) have been moved to another topic.

Mutilation of history often starts with the smallest of steps.

I've read that there are 19 different moderators on Kitestrings. This explains the inconsistent moderation and mutilation of history on this site.

I suggest that you implement a better organizational structure..
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Tad Eareckson - 2017/08/07 08:35:00 UTC

This and the subsequent nine posts have been moved here from "open phones".

[Tad Eareckson]

I've read that there are 19 different moderators on Kitestrings.

You didn't have to. If you'd followed my simple instructions you could've seen for yourself. there are 19 different moderators on Kitestrings.

This explains the inconsistent moderation and mutilation of history on this site.

Sure it does, Bob. 'Cept I just went through all 43 pages worth of Administrator Log and verified that only Zack C, Tad Eareckson, and Steve Davy have ever logged in.

Furthermore, I tediously maintain an archive of all Kite Strings posts and can verify whether or not changes are made.

Further furthermore I often run through the online history of the threads editing for corrections, format, broken links and I've never seen a trace of suspicious activity.

And you are the only one alleging inconsistent moderation and mutilation of history on this site and are officially banned from Kite Strings and only have the access you do a major - and totally unreciprocated - courtesy.

And I'm getting more than a little bit tired of you making these bogus allegations about the integrity of the site and its membership - 'specially minus any specific examples to support allegations.

I decided I'd give everyone registered on Kite Strings who was, on the balance, a positive contributor moderator privileges/access:
- to:
-- neutralize attacks about it being a paranoid dictatorship
-- express my appreciation for contributions
-- demonstrate trust in their characters
- because I didn't wanna draw lines ranking levels of trust

And I just went over to The Bob Show to what your power structure looked like but was unable to access anything. But I'm pretty sure I know what I'd find if I could.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/faq.php
Frequently Asked Questions

Is there a Board of Directors for the US Hawks?
Not yet. The HGAA's early problems arose because different people wanted to take the organization in different directions. That created power stuggles which cost the HGAA some of its early leadership. For now, I'm going to take the US Hawks in the direction that I believe is right. If people want to go along, then they're welcome. If not, there are at least two other alternatives.

I suggest that you implement a better organizational structure..

I suggest that if you don't like the way Kite Strings is operated there are plenty of other glider forums that would be more than happy to welcome you aboard and have you participate.

http://www.kitestrings.org/post10409.html#p10409

[bobk]

And you are the only one alleging inconsistent moderation and mutilation of history on this site

Saying I'm the only one alleging it is a nice dodge, but it's not the same as saying it didn't happen.

The power to change posts is a slippery slope.

[Tad Eareckson]

Saying I'm the only one alleging it is a nice dodge...

I'm not dodging shit, Bob. I don't have to. I'm the one with the really serious buttons over here.

...but it's not the same as saying it didn't happen.

I've never said anything that happened didn't. And I'm wondering what my motives were supposed to have been for doing otherwise.

We both know that my posts have been both moved and altered.

No shit, Sherlock. 'Cause I put in black and white at the time and place what I was doing and why.

If you're willing to say that they haven't then you'll know that I know that you're a liar.

I'm rapidly losing interest in stuff that you know.

So have my posts been moved and altered or not?

Already addressed ad nauseam. CONSISTENT with what I do all the fuckin' time. And most assuredly NOT MUTILATED.

If you want your wire cut again keep wasting my time and making me go blind with this trivial chickenshit crap. I've got REAL stuff I'm trying - and failing - to deal with now.
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Edit - 2017/08/07 00:32:00 UTC

I see that you've once again altered a post while I've been working on a response to 1.0. Great.

The power to change posts is a slippery slope.

Not for me it isn't Bob. And for your Davis/Jack types doing it maliciously either.