Sport 2 VG lessons learned IMHO!
michael170 - 2012/08/07 07:30:22 UTC
If you guys wanna fly around upright, hands on the downtubes all day, then knock yourselves out.
I'm going prone the instant it's safe to do so.
There's a reason for that, Christopher. Similar to the reason first flight students will typically stay prone and land on the wheels and beginning aerotowers will ask their wise old instructors why they're not using something heavier than the standard aerotow weak link which just dumped them into crumpled heaps fifty yards down the runway.Christopher LeFay - 2012/08/07 20:41:04 UTC
Great point! That's exactly what we're talking about - when. When can change - dependent on our developed capacity - and going prone is a natural impulse.
'Cause he's finished launching and wants to go flying now.I'd like to hear why you believe fighting that impulse for a few seconds at launch is a bad idea...
Yeah. It's just that we haven't seen any videos or heard of any incidents that indicate that there's a downside to transitioning a second after becoming fully airborne....you've already heard ample reason and argument for - considered argument against that doesn't sidestep critical issues would be a welcome addition.
Sorry Tormod, I missed the part where anybody was advocating hopping into the air early for the sake of getting proned out as soon as possible.Tormod Helgesen - 2012/08/07 20:39:28 UTC
Oslo
I have saved my ass on several occasions by resisting the urge to go prone, one extra step/kick is often all that's needed to get off the hill safely.
I learnt this the very hard way, no need to elaborate.
When is Ryan not right about anything?Terry Strahl - 2012/08/07 13:22:20 UTC
Ok, sorry Spitfire. Not meant to flame away directly at you, just the fact that many in this forum are quick to redirect a thread to suit their needs.
Ryan is right again, flamethrower going back in the closet.
You mean the way ALL aero and platform tow launches are conducted?So how about it folks, show us some of your five second on the downtube launches.
Ask the Fort Funston regulars how hard it is to launch when it's blowing twenty.
Sometimes it requires .. scared to say it .. launching from the basetube.
Yes.Christopher LeFay - 2012/08/07 14:14:23 UTC
Hey - that would remove the transition entirely!
Probably a consequence of your exposure to Lookout. Matt's trying to outlaw flying from the basetube for anyone under a Hang Three and make it a Special Skill attainable only after a three hundred dollar two day clinic.Any tips you have on launching from the base tube would be appreciated. From my lack of experience, the prospect scares me...
http://vimeo.com/24544780...but it seems sometimes it may be the right tool for the job.
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How often do you NEED to rotate to standing in preparation for a landing?Steve Baran - 2012/08/07 15:03:40 UTC
Chattaroy
I run the gamut when transitioning from downtubes to basetube - If i'm feeling I need, not just desire, for pitch control I'm on the basetube with at least one hand ASAP - often during my run. Otherwise I pretty much go to the basetube after I'm away from the terrain effects of the particular launch I'm at.
If I feel I need both pitch and roll I opt for staying on the downtubes and do my best to run like heck.
I fly a variety of launches in a variety of conditions so I've not gotten into any particular routine - at least from run start to fully in harness and no longer in launch mode.
I've been used to going to both downtubes fairly quickly when rotating to standing in preparation for a landing.
I'm now practicing keeping one hand on the basetube until nearer to the ground - for added pitch control if required.
It is the ground that can be our undoing. The better we transition from and to it the longer we'll be flying and the more enjoyment we'll get out of flying as well.
Christian Thoreson - 2004/10
Thus wheel landings, the safest and easiest way to consistently land a hang glider...