Hang glider tow gone bad.
Came out a lot better than this guy:Mel Torres - 2013/08/28 18:03:26 UTC
Long Beach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRPII_V5n0g
This guy is lucky to be alive.
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didn't he?
Bullshit.Alan Deikman - 2013/08/28 18:10:54 UTC
Fremont
From Russia with love.
It looks to me like the pilot didn't want to go.
- If he didn't wanna go he had the ability not to. I know that's a difficult concept for a Hewett approach tower to grasp but there are other - and vastly superior - ways of playing this game.
- He's resisting the pull from the winch while the tension builds - as he should.
He doesn't have the glider anywhere near properly set - but that's an entirely separate issue.By the third step he's leaning way back and the AoA on the glider is nose up at least 15 degrees.
A bit like this one:No way to recover from there except pure luck.
isn't it?
How much pitch control does someone have when he's taking his hand off the basetube to attempt to pry his very very reliable shoulder mounted bent bin barrel release open?The wages of poor pitch control.
You can tell that how?The onlookers amazingly unconcerned about it all.
- You can't see them when the shit starts happening.
- The glider has:
-- everyone's undivided attention when it's recovering and they come back into view
- a soft landing/crash with very likely not so much as a bent downtube or skinned knee
- Nevertheless the two people closest immediately start running towards it.
- It's a 360 resolution video and all bodies and faces are turned towards the glider and away from the camera.
- That's my take on damn near every hang glider incident - and you're more than welcome to try to cite some exceptions.Dan Lukaszewicz (Lucky_Chevy) - 2013/08/28 20:43:38 UTC
Alexandria, Virginia
That is 100% an instructor issue.
- What's your take on this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYe3YmdIQTM
Mark Knight was the instructor who taught him everything he needed to know about towing and Mel Glantz was the instructor who pulled him.
When the angle of attack was increased outside the normal range the operator should have cut power...
Wills Wing / Blue Sky / Steve Wendt / Ryan Voight Productions - 2007/03
NEVER CUT THE POWER...
Reduce Gradually
Increase Gradually
The glider was started off with its nose up and keel and left wingtip on the ground. It should never have been pulled up in the first place - the lockout was one hundred percent inevitable....and let the trainee run or belly flop.
Did you bother to read...Instead is sounds like he applies full power and rips the trainee off the ground in a high angle climb that pops the weak link.
...the comments?fantomasilia
There wasn't weak link. We use tooth-lock.
- Not using ANY weak link is stupid but, on a winch tow, only about 0.001 percent as stupid as using a Blue Sky 130 pound Greenspot pitch and lockout protector.
- The fact that they were using a "tooth-lock" which allows the PILOT to stay on or get off tow at HIS DISCRETION without compromise of control blows the fuck out of just about anything the West (including Australia) has to offer.
Put an apostrophe in "student's" and you've done a pretty good job of blowing assholes like Rooney, Davis, Trisa outta the water.Scooter tow training is a dance between the student and the instructor with the throttle being constantly modulated in response to the students actions.
- This was NOT a Day 1 sorta student.Better to let the student slide on his knees from too little power than to hurt them by giving them too much altitude/energy.
- Better to make sure the fuckin' glider's ready to go and give it the power for an easy crisp launch.
- Better yet to use a goddam dolly - this situation would've been damn near impossible to achieve had that been the case.
Yeah...I learned to fly by scooter towing...
We know.Dan Lukaszewicz - 88871 - H3 - 2012/08/23 - Steve Wendt - AT FL PL ST 360 CL FSL
In how many of those did the glider have a confident and reality based expectation of being able to safely remain on and abort the tow at his discretion?...and have probably watched fifty classes over the years.
Great! I'll put you down as being totally cool with what happened before/during/after...I've never seen something so outrageous.
- Mike Haas
- Robin Strid
- Holly Korzilius
- Jeremiah Thompson
- Bill Priday
- Bille Floyd
- Kunio Yoshimura
- Steve Elliot
- Roy Messing
- Martin Apopot
- Lenami Godinez-Avila
- Terry Mason
- Shane Smith
- Robert Buxton
- Zack Marzec
- Ben Dunn
- Lin Lyons
Name somebody who does a better job of that than a launch dolly.gluesniffer - 2013/08/29 01:32:26 UTC
Comrade oogle oogle just needed more keel assistance. I don't launch unless someone is holding my keel and setting my aoa.
That wasn't all luck, motherfucker. He had the equipment and ability to abort the tow in an emergency and that makes him and that operation head and shoulders over THIS:I say more throttle toothat red got lucky....
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total asshole - and the other total assholes involved in that operation. Assume everything's gonna go just fine and if/when it doesn't wait for your fishing line to pop and brace for impact.
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