instructors and other qualified pilot fiends

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=29716
Scary moment at Funston

Brian Scharp - 2013/09/12 22:38:49 UTC

michael170 - 2013/09/12 21:35:54 UTC

Brad Barkley - Occupation: fiction writer

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=29688
My story and I'm sticking to it....

Brad Barkley - 2013/08/08 14:58:56 UTC

For those of you who I know only through this forum, I have an article in the USHPA magazine, this month. It's just my story, how I came to flying a couple of years ago, and why I love it so much. The title is simply "Flying," and I hope all my HG brothers (and sisters) here will check it out.

I am not - and never will be - one of your HG brothers (or sisters) but I'll happily check it out as soon as fuckin' USHGA decides to make it available on line.

Yeah but he's also a real HG pilot...

The ability to fly a hang glider doesn't make one a real hang glider pilot. Zack Marzec...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i4owd0akd0
A Winter at Quest Air

Zack Marzec - 2013/02/01

All the pilots in this movie are trained professionals... please don't try this kind of flying at home.

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...proved that pretty definitively a little over seven months ago.

...with a real story.

I got a real story too, motherfucker. My participation in flying hang gliders began on 1980/04/02 - before yours did - and ended on 2008/10/12. Brad says he "came to flying a couple of years ago" so I'm guessing my story is about a dozen times longer than his.

Anybody interested in Terry Mason's story?

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8143/7462005802_bbc0ac66ac_o.jpg


How 'bout Sam Kellner's?

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1081
Platform towing /risk mitigation / accident

Sam Kellner - 2012/07/03 02:25:58 UTC

No, you don't get an accident report.

So how come none of you Jack Show assholes are the least bit concerned about that piece of shit posting on your sacred forum?

And his occupation gives him a little credit when it comes to comparing writing styles.

- That's his occupation. Zack Marzec's occupation was teaching aerotowed hang gliding. He totally sucked at it - as do virtually all the assholes teaching aerotowed hang gliding.

- Oh wow! So Brad got an article published in the magazine!

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=26302
HIGHER EDUCATION ?

michael170 - 2012/06/06 03:14:26 UTC

Did anyone here bother to read Drs. Lisa Colletti and Tracy Tillman's thirteen page idiotic article in the June issue of USHPA's worthless magazine?

NMERider - 2012/06/06 03:25:09 UTC

You are being much too complimentary IMHO. I got so nauseated reading it I had to take a breather. Do you mean to tell me they wrote an article that wasn't insipid and self-congratulatory to the extreme? I've found their entire series on aerotowing to come off rather poorly to say the least. A sad waste of such exalted and highly qualified medical professionals. How do I know this? Well they won't stop patting each other on the back about how great they both are. Pardon me while I puke.

You have no idea how much that impresses me.

- Brad sucks at comparing writing styles. He's convinced michael170 is me. He's not and if Brad did his homework - the way I do mine when I wanna find out who "peanuts" is...

Dennis Wood - Suffolk, Virginia - 19404 - H4 - 2007/08/25 - Jon Thompson - AT FL ST FSL TUR

...he'd know who he is and isn't.

- So what if michael170 were Yours Truly? Why are you fuckin' pansies so terrified of the possibility that I'm posting on your demented little cult's forum? I put what you assholes over there write on my forum all the time and if you're not a sleazy lying saboteur like Bob Kuczewski or Orion Price I'll be more than happy to approve your registration over here so you can talk to me directly.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=11998
Tad Report...

Jim Gaar - 2009/05/14 20:17:53 UTC

Seems he's now considering, rather, threatening anyone who listens or rebukes him by writing to the FAA about how dangerous it is to AT with current bridles and weak links.

http://ozreport.com/pub/images/fingerlakesaccident2.jpg
http://ozreport.com/pub/images/fingerlakesaccident3.jpg

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[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=29716
Scary moment at Funston

Brian Scharp - 2013/09/12 22:38:49 UTC

michael170 - 2013/09/12 21:35:54 UTC

Brad Barkley - Occupation: fiction writer

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=29688
My story and I'm sticking to it....

Brad Barkley - 2013/08/08 14:58:56 UTC

For those of you who I know only through this forum, I have an article in the USHPA magazine, this month. It's just my story, how I came to flying a couple of years ago, and why I love it so much. The title is simply "Flying," and I hope all my HG brothers (and sisters) here will check it out.

Yeah but he's also a real HG pilot with a real story. And his occupation gives him a little credit when it comes to comparing writing styles.

2013/09/13 18:58:39 UTC - 3 thumbs up - SkyTribe
2013/09/13 00:27:18 UTC - 3 thumbs up - Brad Barkley

Big surprise.

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=29716
Scary moment at Funston

Hey Brad...

Brad Barkley - 2013/09/12 20:49:34 UTC

It seems likely that "michael170" is one of Tad's several dozen aliases, same MO, same writing style.

Why do you think nobody seems to be the least bit interested in the identity of the asshole using "SkyTribe" as an alias or how much airtime he got last weekend?

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=27396
Scooter tow faillure... or Never Land On Your Face

Mitch Shipley - 2012/10/22 19:04:16 UTC
USHGA Accident Reporting Committee Chairman

We engage in a sport that has risk and that is part of the attraction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc4-mRxy5GY


COOL!!! Where do I sign up?!

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=29948
im ready too believe

Brad Barkley - 2013/09/17 15:06:33 UTC
Frostburg

And this belongs in the "Hang Gliding General" forum because.....?

This site gets dumbed down more and more every day. Global warming, arctic ice, the constitution, gun control, and now mermaids. How about if all the bullsh*t migrates elsewhere, and this site can return to being about....um....what was it? Oh yeah, hang gliding.

Here's the deal dude...

http://www.hanggliding.org/wiki/HG_ORG_Mission_Statement

HangGliding.Org Rules and Policies

No posts or links about Bob K, Scott C Wise, Tad Eareckson and related people, or their material. ALL SUCH POSTS WILL BE IMMEDIATELY DELETED. These people are poison to this sport and are permanently banned from this site in every possible way imaginable.

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25302
Interview with Davis Straub, OzReport founder

Jack Axaopoulos - 2012/02/24 15:00:21 UTC

The "Extremist 1%" is not allowed on this site.

All mainstream forums are run by useless slimy assholes like Jack, Davis, and club officers who want the maximum number of participants babbling happily away about how great the conditions were last weekend.

The LAST thing they want is intelligent, competent, responsible people:
- highlighting:
-- stupidity, incompetence, shoddiness, corruption
-- the resulting carnage
- calling for accountability and reform

And when Jack refers to the "Extremist 1%" he's VERY OBVIOUSLY talking about the TOP one percent. He doesn't mean dregs like:

Peter Birren
Mike Bomstad
Richard Bryant
Jason Dyer
Steve Forslund
Jim Gaar
Tom Galvin
Pat Halfhill
Craig Hassan
Paul Hurless
Sam Kellner
Stewart LaBrasca
Orion Price
Mitch Shipley
Davis Straub
Ryan Voight
Dennis Wood
Nate Wreyford

And the TOP one percent - big surprise - is the source of ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of human advancement:

John Adams
John Harrison
Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace
Otto Lilienthal
Svante Arrhenius
Wilbur and Orville Wright
Albert Einstein
August Dvorak and William Dealey
Werner Von Braun
Alan Turing
Brian Pattenden
Steve Jobs

So if you chop off the extremist one percent...

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=11497
Aerotow release options?

John Glime - 2009/04/13 18:09:32 UTC

Not being constructive? There is one person who has put more thought and time into releases than anyone. That person is Tad. He explains the pros and cons to every release out there. I gave you the link to more release information than the average person could ever digest, and I didn't get a thank you. Just you bitching that we aren't being constructive. What more could you want? He has created something that is a solution, but no one is using it... apparently you aren't interested either. So what gives??? What do you want us to tell you? Your concerns echo Tad's concerns, so why not use his system? Every other system out there has known flaws.

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=12403
weak link table

ian9toes - 2009/06/14 15:18:37 UTC
Gold Coast

I strongly disagree with banning the one guy who has the most knowledge about safety issues involving what I believe is the most dangerous part of our sport. I hear someone dies every year from towing. I hope SG bites his tongue in the interest of public safety. Maybe just changing the heading of the post to, Blatant plug for aerotow weaklink. Does anyone really think he stands to get rich out of selling these, I don't think so. I suspect his main motivation is to save some lives and to not have all his hard work gone to waste. Keep the cocky bastard on I say

...you're gonna get a disproportionately high rise in the stupidity level of the particular culture.

And then you're gonna chop off the new extremist one percent which was formerly the bottom half of the top two percent and guess how that system's gonna evolve.

I've been in hang gliding for about eighty percent of its history and this shit was going on well before I arrived. And if you think the ice caps are melting quickly (which I'm guessing you DON'T) just watch how fast this sport accelerates down the toilet over the course of the next few years. You've got yourself the same sorta positive feedback loop going on.

Compare/Contrast with Kite Strings. I made some mistakes early in the game but you won't be seeing any more Sam Kellners, Bob Kuczewskis, Orion Prices, or Brad Barkleys with posting privileges here. I select out the crud at the BOTTOM.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=29961
Florida ????

Tiberiu Szollosi - 2013/09/18 16:52:46 UTC

What is the weather like for flying at Quest or Wallaby in late December / January?

Not bad, but if you can wait until the first couple days of February I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Brad Barkley - 2013/09/18 17:37:05 UTC
Western Maryland

Hey... I plan to be there around the same time (or perhaps February), and have asked around.

Do try to hold off until February.

From what I've heard, it's kind of a crap shoot.

No shit, dude.

It can be terrible for days on end, and then suddenly turn on...

VERY suddenly.

...and be great for days on end.

Assuming, of course, you survive the sudden turn-on.

I plan to stay for two to three weeks...

Best not pay your hotel bill more than three or four days in advance.

...with the hopes that that maximizes my chances of getting some good days.

I'm definitely with ya there, brother. I'm hoping you get lotsa really great days.

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=28145
Instrument pod orientation

Jim Rowan - 2013/01/24 13:57:34 UTC
Western Maryland

I've towed many times with my instruments in the center of the basetube and never had an issue, although I concede the possibility. On those occasions when I'm towing and feel the need for an over abundance of caution, I move the pod to the right downtube. I use a pro-tow set up when aerotowing and that seems less prone to problems with the pod in the center of the basetube than when using a three-point tow bridle that has all that excess line over the basetube once you release.

Brad Barkley - 2013/01/24 14:14:35 UTC

Yeah, I am using a 3-point bridle, so that's the worry.

And consider using a pro-tow set-up...

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You don't have all that excess line over the basetube to deal with after you release. And make sure you use a Rooney Link to protect you from getting pitched up excessively.

And send Paul and Lauren my love.

Sam Kellner - 2013/09/18 18:06:40 UTC

winter flying Southern US
Another option this year!!
Cowboy Up...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aerotowrelease/sets/72057594066304861/

...is wintering in Texas on the Gulf Coast. Gloster Aerodrome, a few minutes west of Houston.

Thanks for the tip...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1081
Platform towing /risk mitigation / accident

Sam Kellner - 2012/07/03 02:25:58 UTC

No, you don't get an accident report.

...Sam. Really hoping your 2013 season is every bit as good as last year's.

P.S. Hey SkyTribe...

At:
2013/09/18 16:43:39 UTC
the thread:
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=28290
Report about fatal accident at Quest Air Hang Gliding
was at the bottom of Page 1 with 133 posts and 13556 hits. That was exactly one thousand hits over the figure I first noted after michael170 bumped it to the top. And it was still reading 13556 when SWIFTY's:
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=29962
instabush
bumped it back to Page 2 at:
2013/09/18 17:23:32 UTC

Thanks bigtime for helping us keep it in the spotlight.

[Steve Davy]

Who is Richard Bryant?

Edit: I forgot about the search function. Richard 'it might not break when you need it to' Bryant - AKA- FlyMyU2

[Tad Eareckson]

Although I have no doubt whatsoever that he's of that persuasion (hell, who in hang gliding isn't) I don't think that's him. The closest I could find to that quote was from our ol' buddy Kinsley...

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=26870
weak links

Kinsley Sykes - 2012/08/17 17:09:23 UTC

And now the thing might not break when you need it to...

...Sykes.

Some day we need to make a list of Cragin Shelton caliber shits who have long loud histories of Rooney Link worship but were strangely absent from the Zack Marzec discussions.

[Steve Davy]

Oops!
Steve 'didn't do his homework' Davy

[Tad Eareckson]

All these assholes DO tend to blur together.

I give Kinsley higher marks than saboteur crud like Richard and OP though 'cause he at least made SOME effort to understand the issue and advance a bit from his if-all-the-pros-are-doing-it-this-way-it-must-be-right foundation... BUT we:
- made sense on the physics/theory
- clearly exposed Rooney, Davis, Rodie as the incompetent lying frauds they are
- forced Davis to threaten us lock, the threads, declare victory and leave
and he just dropped away and let things stand after making THIS:

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30971
Zach Marzec

Kinsley Sykes - 2013/02/17 16:04:16 UTC

Actually, if you are on the fence, but think maybe these "strong weaklink" guys have a point, please go to that forum and read through it. Then see if you want to trust your life to their theories..

I do think that doing things that question long held beliefs it good. People thought Galileo was a heretic and also were fond of the earth being flat. I am sure we can do things better in towing, just would like that to be fact based, not just conjecture.

statement. And he sure don't get no points from me for that - especially when we're dealing with an issue that just got somebody killed.