A good reason to wear gloves!
It's OK for ANYONE to call that miserable little piece of shit anything he feels like.smokenjoe50 - 2014/01/24 16:16:32 UTC
But its ok for you to call Ryan Cryin_Ryan
This sport has been DEMOLISHED by standup landings.NMERider - 2014/01/24 16:43:55 UTCIf it wasn't for wheels this sport would slowly die.Erik Boehm - 2014/01/24 09:46:31 UTC
This thread could just as easily be titled: "A good reason to land on your feet"
The primary emphasis is on an impossibly difficult and dangerous landing and - relatively speaking - nobody's flying hang gliders.Gil Dodgen - 1995/01
All of this reminds me of a comment Mike Meier made when he was learning to fly sailplanes. He mentioned how easy it was to land a sailplane (with spoilers for glide-path control and wheels), and then said, "If other aircraft were as difficult to land as hang gliders no one would fly them."
Nearly?Nearly all tandem instruction is done by landing on wheels regardless of whether it was a mountain foot launch or an aero-tow surface launch.
How has the sport treated landing wheels? For most of its history wheels have been:The logic of those whose posts disparage others for doing wheel landings is warped at best.
What concerns me is how pilots may not treat their landing wheels as seriously as they would treat their lower rigging or the integrity of their crossbars.
- cheap add-ons
- bulky
- draggy
- heavy
- tiny
A.I.R. makes some beautifully engineered, clean, functional skids and people fall in love with them and start using them.
How much does it concern you that tens of thousands of assholes are going up on releases that they know for certainties will be one hundred percent useless in emergency situations...What also concerns me is how pilots may feel that wheels insure or guarantee safety.
http://www.chgpa.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3391
More on Zapata and weak link
...because they've got this magic loop of fishing line that...Paul Tjaden - 2008/07/22 04:32:22 UTC
I got clobbered and rolled hard right in a split second. I have never had a lockout situation happen so quickly and dramatically and had no chance to release as I have always thought I could do.
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24846
Is this a joke ?
...MIGHT break at just the right time to keep them from getting killed and will NEVER break in a manner that can do anything more than inconvenience them?Jim Rooney - 2011/08/28 10:40:24 UTC
Is a weaklink going to save your ass? Who knows? But it's nice to stack the deck in your favour.
Since when did...They obviously don't do that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_n5B3-MIC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYe3YmdIQTM
...obviousness about anything start mattering in this sport?
Duh. But not one percent as hard as one tends to get bit by imperfect flare timing or perfect flare timing fucked up whenever Mother Nature feels like making the scene.Honestly? I feel that wheel landings should be a sign-off. There are many ways that wheels can not only bite you hard in the ass if you land on them incorrectly...
Only if people let them. We have such things as crew and locking wheels....but they can cause a blown launch as well.
Not all wheel are engineered to be landed on...
Hang gliders very obviously aren't engineered to be foot landed......yet pilots insist on landing on them anyway.
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27086
Steve Pearson on landings
...and can't be - yet people insist on landing themselves and compelling others to land so.Steve Pearson - 2012/03/28 23:26:05 UTC
I can't control the glider in strong air with my hands at shoulder or ear height and I'd rather land on my belly with my hands on the basetube than get turned downwind.
Which is exactly what...In fact you don't even need wheel to safely land on your belly (in the right conditions) if your technique is sound.
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25536
Whoops! Snapped another tip wand :-O
...Steve Pearson is saying.NMERider - 2012/03/14 15:17:14 UTC
I like what Steve Pearson does when he comes in and may adapt something like that.
What was I just saying?There is another option to wheels that is very popular in Europe and that is the streamlined, carbon composite skids made by Falko Kruger. These are works of art by very sturdy and aerodynamic.
Yes.But above all, when coming in on wheels, skids or belly, technique is paramount along with the integrity of the landing gear, and that is where this conversation should be going.
Name another fixed wing aircraft for which that's not true.Around 1980, I used to land my double-surface glider safely on drilled out hockey pucks on a soccer field. It requires proper technique and wheels that are compatible with the runway.
Not really.Honestly, I feel that a properly engineered set of skids with a UHMW contact surface may be a viable alternative to wheels.
Bush pilots are proficient in landing (and taking off) on snow skis by using them as skids on grass, etc. But that is a different conversation.
Stupidity. Not considering worst case scenarios. SOP for hang gliding.This pilot broke and sliced his finger because his valve stems where facing the inside rather than away from him. Why that is I don't know.
OK then. New rule: Nobody land hard when using these wheels. Add it to:I also felt his landing was harsh when he bounced and the impact contributed to the failure of his wheel hub. Yes, I have inspected what I believe are the same hubs and what I saw was flimsy. I assume it is the same model as his.
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=22540
LMFP release dysfunction
Diev Hart - 2011/07/14 17:19:12 UTC
I have had issues with them releasing under load. So I don't try to release it under a lot of load now.
I miss pretty much my whole career of not having landed on wheels.Anyhow, I miss landing on wheels.
Has anybody actually broken his neck doing that? You can break your neck a hundred times easier when you come in upright.It is hysterically fun to grease it in to the deck at 35 mph then see how far I can roll out and then balance the glider on the wheels while standing still as long as I can. Yes, if carelessly done you can break your neck doing this. Wheels are no guarantee of a safe landing.
Use techniques and equipment that minimize the demands on skills and judgment, accommodate physical limitations and micrometeorological problems and surprises. And don't come in on shitty terrain.Safe landings depend upon proper skills and sound judgement regardless the equipment used; pilot's physical limitations (if any); surface weather; and the terrain.
But ONLY to forum members. Just the assholes Jack permits to post and see the full content of all discussions.Hopefully, there are still a few forum members reading this topic. There is value to be gotten from the OP.