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I dunno. Any thoughts on wheel engineering that doesn't totally suck?Ultralajt - 2014/01/27 06:53:37 UTC
Could gloves prevent that injury somehow to happens in such magnitude?
What do you expect?Gordon Marshall - 2014/01/27 15:25:17 UTC
wow, $10,000 !!! someone likes cashing in on your misfortune.
http://www.shga.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3398
A broken humerus, guess the cost.
Orion Price - 2012/07/16 06:39:18 UTC
It was almost 70k. 68 and change. Just for the surgery.
Bullshit. Legs are insurance policies for idiots who are unwilling and/or unable to identify and land in appropriate fields.A finger is such a small part of the body but I bet it hurts like hell, I hope you feel better soon.
I hate to say it but I was crap at landing, single handedly kept the aluminium company in business.
The local hang gliding dealer would rub his hands together when I showed up, worse still, I noticed him rubbing his hands together.
I learnt how to land.
Wheels are definitely NOT for sissies, they are an essential insurance policy for a mistake...
Remember what you just said about the local hang gliding dealer rubbing his hands together when you showed up? Just how much motivation do you think the manufacturers have for making gliders safe to belly, skid, wheel land?...furthermore glider manufacturers should have skid potential built into the 'A' frame so that touching the corner does not end in tears.
The real crux of the problem is...The real crux of the problem is education and, as it appears,--- peer apathy.
...hang gliders cannot be safely foot landed by regular recreational flyers in the short run and highly skilled fanatics in the long run.Gil Dodgen - 1995/01
All of this reminds me of a comment Mike Meier made when he was learning to fly sailplanes. He mentioned how easy it was to land a sailplane (with spoilers for glide-path control and wheels), and then said, "If other aircraft were as difficult to land as hang gliders no one would fly them."
Sorry. That ain't my idea of quality time. That ain't really ANYBODY's idea of quality time. If it were people wouldn't need to be pressured to do it.You have spent all that time and effort in learning how to enjoy the freedom of the air, it would only make sense to go that one step further and spend some quality time learning how to land.
Lumpy LZs ain't your friend neither - regardless of how proficient you are at foot landing.Those wheels will not be your friend in a lumpy LZ...
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=26854...they will destroy that beautiful carbon fibre 'A' frame in a nano second and have your head kissing your nose plate.
Skids versus wheels
Andrew Stakhov - 2012/08/11 13:52:35 UTC
So I just came back from flying in Austria (awesome place btw). Stark difference I noticed is a large chunk of pilots choose to fly with skids instead of wheels. Conversations I had with pilots they say they actually work better in certain situations as they don't get plugged up like smaller wheels. Even larger heavier Atosses were all flying with skids. I was curious why they consistently chose to land on skids on those expensive machines and they were saying that it's just not worth the risk of a mistimed flare or wing hitting the ground... And those are all carbon frames etc.
Bullshit.When you look forward to landing, when you relish the thought of swooping down in ground effect to pop it up into a no step, then you will be free of the wheel dependancy.
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=270861. spend some quality time and trim the glider to min sink. THEN---
2. keep the wings level (into wind, cross wind, down wind, doesn't matter the most important thing is-- WINGS LEVEL)
3. round out, level off, wings level, trading airspeed for altitude, allow the aircraft to come to trim and flare. if you climb--FLARE HARDER!
4. did I mention keeping the wings level??
Have I made it sound too simplistic? it is, but its the hardest damn thing to do until invest in yourself.
Steve Pearson on landings
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25536Steve Pearson - 2012/03/28 23:26:05 UTC
I can't control the glider in strong air with my hands at shoulder or ear height and I'd rather land on my belly with my hands on the basetube than get turned downwind.
Whoops! Snapped another tip wand :-O
NMERider - 2012/03/14 15:17:14 UTC
I like what Steve Pearson does when he comes in and may adapt something like that.
I really do wish you a speedy recovery and hope that you will be back flying real soon.
This bullshit has been going on since the beginning of hang glider foot landings. Maybe it's time for an entirely different strategy.NMERider - 2014/01/27 20:10:09 UTC
Well-said Gordo. From my personal POV, the sad thing about landing discussions whether on bulletin boards or face-to-face in the LZ is they seldom seem to result in any tangible and lasting improvement among the flying community. Please prove my observation wrong. I wish it wasn't so.
Why is someone with your experience and skill worried about an impact? Didn't Gordo just say:I have custom-made over-sized Delrin skids on the very corners of my T2C carbon fiber speedbar. They partially cover the aluminum corner brackets to avoid cracking the control bar in an impact.
When you look forward to landing, when you relish the thought of swooping down in ground effect to pop it up into a no step, then you will be free of the wheel dependancy.
Which is the kind of surface on which you do the vast majority of landings - even with a huge percentage being XC.They are also slippery enough and just tall enough to land on if it's a groomed surface like a soccer field, etc.
So why isn't Wills Wing doing this engineering and making it available?I really should make them even taller and round the front end better.
Oh. For the MOST PART. (Paying attention here, Gordo?)In the end I used video footage of just two pilots to create my own practice regimen to learn how to land reasonably well and I now do for the most part.
Definition of insanity...But the regimen I used I made for me and to suit my style and this is where most discussions fail and fail miserably.
In stark contrast to the astounding success of...Landing technique must match each individual pilot and his or her particular physical/mental make-up. The notion of a one-size-fits-all technique and set of instructions has in my observation failed.
http://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5529/14422573378_5385a9a99a_o.png
...tug driver dictated one-size-fits-all aerotow weak links.
Anybody in particular...And the failure of the so-called mentors and instructors to recognize this is worse than a failure. It is a disaster.
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=25536
Whoops! Snapped another tip wand :-O
NMERider - 2012/03/14 15:17:14 UTC
Jim Rooney threw a big tantrum and stopped posting here.
His one-technique-fits-all attitude espoused on the Oz Report Forum has become tiresome to read. It does not work in the fucked-up world of XC landings and weary pilots.
...in mind?Christopher LeFay - 2012/03/15 05:57:43 UTC
January's canonization of Rooney as the Patron Saint of Landing was maddening. He offered just what people wanted to hear: there is an ultimate, definitive answer to your landing problems, presented with absolute authority. Judgment problems? His answer is to remove judgment from the process - doggedly stripping out critical differences in gliders, loading, pilot, and conditions. This was just what people wanted - to be told a simple answer. In thanks, they deified him, carving his every utterance in Wiki-stone.
If Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney is that full of shit in his capacity as the Patron Saint of Landing is there any possibility that he's equally full of shit in his capacity as the Patron Saint of Aerotowing?
How many more decades of doing the same things over and over and expecting better results do you think we need?Just my 2p of course. I'm always happy to be proven wrong in cases like this.