fixed it for youTad Eareckson wrote:http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=32059
Torrey Incident, should USHPA get involved?Yeah. NO ONE is defending Bob. Fuckin' moron.Dennis Cavagnaro - 2014/11/13 14:46:04 UTC
No one is defending Bob...Because the fault lies mainly with the Jebbs....but no one should be defending the Jebbs either.
Dennis C. wrote:City parks should be open to all. Its not that hard.
Wrong!!!!!Tad wrote:Asshole.
But not anywhere near enough.Dennis is correct on this one.
Bob Kuczewski - 2014/11/18 16:03:32 UTC
Re: phone call
Hello Tad,
I noted your post about me not including your full message in my list of email.
The reason is pretty simple ... I didn't have time to write to each person asking for permission to post what they'd written along with their attribution. So I had to post them without names or anything that might identify them. So it was out of respect for your privacy that I didn't post some parts of your message. As for other parts of your message, you know my policy on taking the hits out of s****. : )
Oh good. You're reading them.I noted your post...
I'm sure.I didn't have time to write to each person...
Really? You didn't have much respect for my privacy when you posted:So it was out of respect for your privacy...
Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/13 05:55:39 UTC
If I boot you permanently it will be due to my concerns over the topic we discussed on the phone. This forum should be a safe place for people of varying ages to visit. You have not given me any assurances that's true with you on this forum.
But you participated in:...you know my policy on taking the hits out of s****.
Bob Kuczewski - 2014/11/18 16:48:10 UTC
Reply to your post
Hello Tad,
Thanks for standing up for what's right despite your considerable contempt. But I think you've made a mistake here:
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1629
Jailed for taking pictures at TorreyTad replied:Bill Cummings - 2014/11/17 23:57:28 UTC
But just like the other guy I would like to match his two hundred dollar offer to defray some of your legal expenses. You are doing work that benefits all pilots.First of all, you never asked me to protect your right to do any kind of flying. Second, when I was Regional Director I did come to your defense on the Board. And when I started the US Hawks, I actually sought you out to join us. So "quite the contrary" isn't a fair reflection of what actually happened.Lemme know how it's benefiting me. Bob never lifted a finger to protect my right to do the kind of flying that I wanted to do safely, legally, and within practical range. Quite the contrary.
1. You never asked me to back you in protecting your right to do the kind of flying you want to do safely, legally, and within practical range and I'm not a Regional Director and haven't even flown anything for over six years now but I'm currently working my ass off to do it.First of all, you never asked me to protect your right to do any kind of flying.
No you didn't. You didn't even bother reading my proposed SOPs and comparing them to the absolute crap USHGA had on its books - and has always had and always will have. You still haven't read them because...Second, when I was Regional Director I did come to your defense on the Board.
...you don't have time to read everything that everyone asks you to read. What you did was...Bob Kuczewski - 2011/10/23 16:29:29 UTC
As for Nobody's request for me to read a document, I haven't found the time yet. I'm sorry, but I don't have time to read everything that everyone asks me to read.
...recommend that a major USHGA establishment lying piece of shit (who was my major rock star when I was a baby back in 1980 and for way too many years afterwards) go and try to talk me out of talking to the FAA about dangerous practices in hang gliding (like the one that your buddy Sam used to kill Terry Mason and the ones the Kitty Hawk and Quest used to kill Zack Marzec) and come back into the fold and continue to sit quietly while everybody continued to piss all over me.Bob Kuczewski - 2013/03/10 18:20:34 UTC
I first learned about Tad Eareckson when I was Regional Director and the USHPA Board circulated a letter he had written (with intention to send?) to the FAA about some dangerous practices in hang gliding.
The Board's knee-jerk response was to try to take some kind of legal action to silence Tad. I indicated that I thought we shouldn't be sending our lawyers in as our first response, and that maybe we should have someone talk with him first. So Dennis Pagen volunteered, and I believe the matter was settled without any serious damage to the sport.
...with which you try to leave people.So Dennis Pagen volunteered, and I believe the matter was settled without any serious damage to the sport.
For what purpose and to what ultimate end? So I could work to develop AT SOPs on a committee as an equal with total fucking morons like Bill and Sam? So I could have one man / one vote privileges and have my free speech rights protected under your dictatorship?And when I started the US Hawks, I actually sought you out to join us.
You sabotaged everything I tried and was massively overqualified to do 'cause all you wanted was for me to shut the fuck up and play nicely with the other children.So "quite the contrary" isn't a fair reflection of what actually happened.
1. All of the 5295 prior to this one? Lots of them are pretty long.I've read your posts.
You're welcome. But don't go too nuts with that. Davis is on your side on this one and he deserves no respect whatsoever.I have to respect someone who can be fair even to someone he hates. Thank you.
Not really.We will probably never agree on a lot of things, and that's OK.
And yet we find ourselves in stunningly parallel situations - we can't fly where we want at public facilities which have been taken over by corrupt law breaking concessionaires because USHGA refuses to enforce its regulations and the relevant government entities refuse to enforce their laws protecting our safety and rights.We have our own forums and our own causes.
1. Not enough for you to have expressed your appreciation on your forum or Sylmar's.I appreciate that you've spoken up for what's right regardless of your personal feelings.
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30971Jim Rooney - 2011/08/25 04:55:25 UTC
Don't even get me started on Tad. That obnoxious blow hard has gotten himself banned from every flying site that he used to visit... he doesn't fly anymore... because he has no where to fly. His theories were annoying at best and downright dangerous most of the time. Good riddance.
...on my situation? Or can we just assume that you're still in on the same page with Adam, Rooney, Davis, Jack, Cragin, Charlie, Sam, and Bob?Jim Rooney - 2013/03/07 18:24:58 UTC
Go back to Tad's hole in the ground.
While you're there, ask him why he was banned from every east coast flying site.
I have.Regarding "Nobody", please let him know that I'd like to give him a call.
I'm not sure I have a current number. I've never had any spoken communications with anyone registered on Kite Strings outside of you. And we all know how that one relationship turned out.My phone number is still 858-204-7499, and he can call me or you can send me his number and I'll call him.
...people tend to hear what they want to hear and drop their guard. Email - fine. That way we can take steps back and take the time and effort to see what you're REALLY saying and trying to do. And there isn't any question about exactly who said what when.NMERider
I voted for Bob after spending a very enjoyable hour on the telephone with him a few months ago. My impression of Bob is that he is a level headed and enthusiastic supporter of both hang gliding and paragliding, and above all: SAFETY.
No. He was not restricted. YOU restricted him. Whenever I hear that passive sentence structure alarm bells start going off. Pure...He was restricted...
...Jack and...HangGliding.Org Rules and Policies
No posts or links about Bob K, Scott C Wise, Tad Eareckson and related people, or their material. ALL SUCH POSTS WILL BE IMMEDIATELY DELETED. These people are poison to this sport and are permanently banned from this site in every possible way imaginable.
...Davis.Davis Straub - 2014/09/25 05:25:49 UTC
And Tad was kicked off the Oz Report forum long before I required you to login.
Which others? Did he have any justification or provocation or was it just 'cause he's an inherently nasty aggressive person?...because he attacked others...
Pilgrim - AKA Charlie Schneider - attacked the crap out of me without revealing who he actually was. But you had no problem whatsoever with that....on the forum without revealing (at least to my satisfaction) who he actually was.
NMERider - 2012/06/19 01:36:26 UTC
The pilot had a brush with fate a year earlier:
http://www.kitestrings.org/post453.html#p453
This is very sad.
...getting away with manslaughter.Gregg Ludwig - 2012/06/23 20:15:21 UTC
What is that saying?..."He does the same thing over and over but expects different results."
I greatly value civility for people deserving of it but with everything else Zack mentioned intact civility is an inevitable byproduct and thus doesn't really need specific mention.Zack C - 2010/11/23 05:23:34 UTC
This is a forum ruled by science, truth, facts, reason, and logic. Anyone with a respect for these principles and a willingness to learn and engage in rational discussion is welcome to participate.
The forum is still in its infancy, so we don't have much in the way of structure or posting rules. Until we're large enough to have a need for more, all topics will be under a single forum. As for rules, just keep it civil, stay on topic, keep topics in line with the forum purpose, and don't lie or misrepresent others' statements.
http://www.rmhpa.org/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4258Dr. Trisa Tilletti - 2012/06Dr. Trisa Tilletti 1 - Unlike the FAA's relatively clear-cut legal rules, the practical aspects of weak link technology and application are not so clear-cut. For some people, talking about weak links is more like talking about religion, politics, or global warming--they can get very emotional about it and have difficulty discussing it logically, rationally, or with civility.Dr. Trisa Tilletti 2 - So let's try to talk about it rationally, logically, and practically here.
...is just a weapon sleazy, incompetent, corrupt motherfuckers use to silence their primary threats.Tom Galvin - 2012/10/31 22:17:21 UTC
You are arguing straw men. I teach hook-in checks. I don't teach lift and tug, as it gives a false sense of security. If you include your internet postings as teaching, then from my perspective you are very ineffective, since you mostly alienate those you are seeking to inform. Since you seem to be incapable of rational, civil discourse, this will be my last reply to you. I suspect if you continue your abusive postings, you can add another forum to the list of those you have been banned from.
Clear what up?I think a phone call might clear that up.
Wanna REALLY thank me?Thanks again for defending someone you despise.
Start publicly posting stuff about my integrity on your forum and Sylmar's. But of course you don't wanna do that 'cause that will delegitimize the justification/pretense you used to ban me and undermine the portrayal of me you've been spewing around the web.Bob Kuczewski - 2014/11/12
I do appreciate your integrity and rising above our disagreement.
That would be "T** at K*** S******" for you Jack and Davis Show fans.Bob Kuczewski - 2014/11/19 17:56:05 UTC
Um .... I'm a little bit speechless!!!
I normally have a lot to say, but it seems you guys have covered the topic so well, that there's little for me to add!!
Thanks to:
RickMasters
eagle
SamKellner
BigBird
wingspan33
flyingbrian
billcummings
JoeF
Your points are all excellent!!!! So excellent that I have nothing to add right now.
I would also like to thank Tad at KiteStrings...
I've also got one down in your Basement by the same name started at the same time for the same reasons....for his coverage and comments of the event. Tad and I disagree on many things. In fact, Tad has a topic titled "The Bob Show"...
1. Care to quote any?...where he takes every cheap shot he can at me.
327 with this one.If you read that topic (currently containing nearly 330 of mostly Tad's posts)...
That's total fuckin' bullshit. See? Like right there only fifty percent of the words were foul. Less than that if you count the contraction as two words....you'll find Tad using an unending stream of foul language directed at me and other US Hawks members.
Shoulda read: "But despite his obvious hatred and da spite for me..."But despite his obvious hatred and despise for me...
Does he also speak up for the courage you displayed in dealing with that situation?...he does speak up on the injustice of the situation.
Do I get any credit for...I have to give him credit for that.
...my integrity? Just kidding.Bob Kuczewski - 2014/11/12
I do appreciate your integrity and rising above our disagreement.
1. Because of the foul language, Bob?I do not recommend Tad's site for anyone under the age of 18...
'Fraid they might learn some new naughty words that they wouldn't likely encounter in other internet venues?Peter Birren - 2011/08/29 18:40:45 UTC
Fuckin' coward... ignorant coward.
Tad, you ignorant slut...
Asswipe!
If I figured out how to access that photo you surely can too. (And if you click on the URL you can get the 3264x2448 copy.)...but any adults wishing to read Tad's thoughts on the matter can start here:
http://www.kitestrings.org/topic33-270.html#p6962
Tad's coverage included this photo of the arrest that I haven't been able to see elsewhere:
http://ozreport.com/pub/images/eRu0iE8mYuyUmODvFfzY.jpg
Oh, don't mention it, Bob.Thanks Tad.
Steve Davy - 2014/11/19 19:07:34 UTC
You got something that you want to say to me then you do it here in your basement, Bob.
You can call him Steve now. You and everyone else knows he's Steve.Bob Kuczewski - 2014/11/19 19:22:40 UTC
Hello Nobody,
I've always been totally fair to you, Bob. You just don't like it most of the time when it covers most of your actions.Tad has been uncharacteristically fair to me in his recent coverage of the Torrey situation.
You thanked me a lot better privately than you did publicly.I have thanked him privately and publicly.
Why is "confinement" inside quotation marks?A byproduct of that discussion was the topic of your "confinement"...
I can understand why "Free Speech Zone" is in quotation marks....to the "Free Speech Zone"...
1. You could post to all of them before you violated the crap out of the extremely liberal rules once too often....on the US Hawks forum. Here's a quote from Tad:Since I cannot post to any portion of Tad's site...Also...
You have a heavily restricted "Nobody" on your forum who you know was the same "Nobody" from Kite Strings. At 2012/12/20 05:59:56 UTC upon his request I switched "Nobody" to "Steve Davy". And on The Davis Show "Ridgerodent" publicly identified himself as "Steve Davy" - USHGA 88875. And even he's publicly in your corner on this one on one or two other forums.
1. Fine, Bob. I don't recommend your site for anybody of any age who wants competent information about aviation.I chose to reply to him via email:Hello Tad,
I won't reinstate Nobody's ability to post to the general forum without a phone conversation. He remains free to post in the "Free Speech Zone" as I've said before.
I have posted a link to your web site with a warning that I do not recommend it for anyone under 18 ... which I do not.
Like what? "Unrepentant child molester" ad nauseam?I'm sure those aren't the answers you want, so please feel free to go back to your regular name calling if you like.
Of course you would. You're at your most dangerous when you're pretending to be friendly.That's what I expect even though I would advise a more friendly position.
Any deviation from reality in aviation is deadly. And you assholes are all over the fuckin' map.I have said many times that we share many similar goals, but I believe that for you, any deviation from exactly what you want is grounds for warfare.
I was kinda hoping to end up as vulture food - assuming I've got no shot at immortality.That's where we've been, and that's where I expect we'll stay until we're both in the ground.
Unless they're attacking Tad. Then they have a free pass.I followed that with a message to the registered email address of "Nobody" and a CC to Tad:Thanks again for doing what is right.
Sincerely,
Bob KuczewskiHello Steve (cc Tad),
I've been having a conversation with Tad regarding your reinstatement to the general US Hawks forum.
As you may remember, I took the position that people should not be allowed to attack others on our forum without people knowing who they actually are ... in real life.
That's not all you restricted, Bob. He has way better access to your site logged out and surfing as Joe Blow than he does logged in. That's fuckin' ridiculous.That's why I restricted your posting to the "Free Speech Zone" on our forum.
And you bloody well know that that was not the case with Nobody / Steve. And there was ZERO indication that anything like that was going on when you banished him or at any other time before or after.I've seen too many forums where "puppet" users are created to make it appear that there are lots of people with a particular view, when the reality was that they were just a bunch of aliases for one person.
Your Board of Directors on that wavelength as well?In fact, I was personally told this by someone doing that exact thing on the hanggliding.org forum. I am hoping to do something better on the US Hawks forum.
You already have that in spades.So I've arrived at my own policy to avoid that situation. My policy is that I want to have a reasonable certainty of the identity of each person who is engaging in any significant personal attacks against others.
I currently do that by checking out the Username and E-mail address. I've never had much trouble identifying real people and screening out spammers.I currently do that with at least one phone call (possibly more).
How many other national - or international - hang glider forums worth mentioning are there? It doesn't take all that many clicks to check and see if anything's going on.It's not a perfect system, but I think it's better than what we see on most of the other national forums.
Then put it in your rules and don't enforce it selectively.I stand behind giving people a public voice, but only if they're willing to stand behind it as well.
For verification purposes only. FINE. But, Steve, don't drop your guard and make the mistakes I did.I welcome the chance to discuss this with you, and you are welcome to call me any time at 858-204-7499.
Let's look at it IN CONTEXT:But then I went back and read just one of Nobody's recent posts directed at Bill Cummings:Thanks for signing up with the US Hawks.
Sincerely,
Bob Kuczewski
"You've got s*** for brains, Bill. Rot in Hell pigf*****."
- Nobody, February 22, 2014
018-0724Nobody - 2014/02/23 06:25:51 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNCrD6Cnc48
hang glider crash
bisfal bisto - 2014/01/24
dead
019-0725
http://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3854/14367992265_7f220637c2_o.png
You've got s*** for brains, Bill. Rot in Hell pigf*****.Bill Cummings
Don't increase the strength of your weak-link. (Don't--Don't!)
Beats the fuck out of the crap you and Bill were talking...There's no possible way that a statement like that can be construed to be helpful to the sport of hang gliding...
The same way statements about evolution and geology in no way can be construed to be helpful to the religion of Christianity or to the advancement of discussions at Liberty University....or to the advancement of discussions here on the US Hawks.
Tad Eareckson - 2014/02/25 04:40:06 UTC
I don't hate him THAT much.
Really? It's been good enough for you to violate USHGA's hook-in check requirement...So I wrote a second message to Steve and Tad:Steve and Tad,
Let me apologize that my memory appears to be failing me.
1. Yeah, I used to think that as well. Then I found out the hard way what hang gliding people are REALLY like and all the shit that's been going on since about a half an hour after its inception.I generally like to think that most people are reasonable and rational individuals who really want to come to resolutions about issues.
The kind of human being who's tired of seeing bullshit like:But when I looked up "Nobody"s recent posts, I found this:
"You've got s*** for brains, Bill. Rot in Hell pigf*****."
- Nobody, February 22, 2014
It's hard for me to imagine the kind of human being who would write something like that on a public forum to someone as experienced and thoughtful as Bill Cummings.
Fuck you then, Bob.So while my offer to reinstate "Nobody" based on a telephone discussion stands, I have to say that it will be a long conversation (maybe many conversations) and may not conclude with a restoration of posting rights.
HALLELUJAH!As it stands (and evidenced above), Nobody remains free to post in the "Free Speech Zone" even to this day.
Bull fucking shit.Despite Tad's complaints, that's far more of a voice than Tad has given to myself on his forum.
1. "OUR" forum? Who's "US"? Who has any control over what happens there besides you?So Tad, if you want to argue for Nobody to post MORE on our forum...
1. Lemme fix that for ya......then maybe you should FIRST allow me and others the same posting rights on your forum that he ALREADY HAS on ours.
Here Zack's ranking officer, I'm an Administrator, Steve's a Moderator, Zack and Steve both have my password, and I've offered my other participants control positions. So I get to do the first person plural thing....then maybe you should FIRST allow me and others the same posting rights on your forum that he ALREADY HAS on mine.
You don't qualify and just massively reassured me that you never will. You're going for quantity so you want people to play nicely with the other children, we're going for quality and if Sunday school gets in the way of science, truth, facts, reason, logic, rational discussion you're out. That'll be the case whether our participants count is five hundred, fifty, five, two (which is how it started out (four years ago come Saturday) and remained for two months plus eight days), one, or zero.Zack C - 2010/11/23 05:23:34 UTC
This is a forum ruled by science, truth, facts, reason, and logic. Anyone with a respect for these principles and a willingness to learn and engage in rational discussion is welcome to participate.
The forum is still in its infancy, so we don't have much in the way of structure or posting rules. Until we're large enough to have a need for more, all topics will be under a single forum. As for rules, just keep it civil, stay on topic, keep topics in line with the forum purpose, and don't lie or misrepresent others' statements.
Regardless of where the goalposts have been moved to.So that's where we stand.
Bullshit. See above. Granted, there's no way in hell dedicated pin benders and Rooney Linkers will ever get on here but they don't wanna be here any more than I want them here.Nobody (Steve?) already has far more rights to post on this forum than Tad has given to myself and many others on his forum.
1. Yeah? Try saying shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits on The Bob Show and see what happens.Indeed, the fact that Nobody was able to create this topic ("Basement Bob") just minutes ago (check the dates) is pretty clear proof that we are far more tolerant of free speech here on the US Hawks than Tad is on his forum.
Who's complaining?I find it hard for him to be complaining.
Not really.Steve and Tad, I appreciate that you have stood up for fairness in the Torrey matter. I have similarly defended Tad in the past...
Aren't you gonna hafta do some interesting gymnastics when you're also the one dishing out the unfair treatment?...and I plan to do so in the future for both of you if I see that you are being treated unfairly.
Don't count on it.I doubt we'll get to a better arrangement than that, so let's please leave it at that.
1. Wow! That's exactly the same adjective I used before reading this post! Great minds...Steve Davy - 2014/11/19 22:49:49 UTC
Tad has always been fair to you, Bob. You're just too twisted to realize that.
Thank you, no thanks necessary. Extremely black and white situation. No brainer.Bill Cummings - 2014/11/20 00:43:20 UTC
Tad,
I also want to thank you for your position of support for Bob K. in his struggle with the leadership of the Torrey Pines Glider Port.
The 00.1 percent being the part that got a tandem aerotow instructor splatted on the runway at Quest near the beginning of 2013.I also approve of you quoting me as being in support of most all your work as it applies to towing.
I see you as being 99.9% correct in every aspect of towing safety,
OK, tell me what:The only disagreement I see between us is weaklink strength.
So did that buddy of Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney's who was spending the winter of 2012/2013 flying and making really cool videos. Well, he might have started having a few doubts around the time his standard aerotow weak link increased the safety of the towing operation on his last flight. But what are several seconds of terror and a few minutes of fading consciousness compared to three years of incident free track record?I will go to my grave thinking that I am correct and that you are wrong.
Which ones? I really try to avoid referencing any of my beliefs on glider forums. Hell, for that matter I really try to avoid having any.I thank you for printing your beliefs.
I know.Mine are out their too.
I know. I've raped, murdered, and cannibalized damn near all the ones of varying ages. Still haven't figured out how to get at the ones under Bob's protection however.Most of the pilots are adults...
And untold thousands of them all believe that a single loop of 130 pound Greenspot fishing line installed on a bridle end with the knot positioned so that it's hidden from the main tension in the link and excluded altogether from the equation will put them at 1.0 Gs and, if they fail to maintain the correct tow position (centered, with the wheels of the tug on the horizon), will break before they can get into too much trouble?...and have the capacity to read what each of us say and make their own informed decision.
Welcome to hang gliding. A great deal of preaching and virtually nothing in the way of aviation theory. The masses love it.Here is my chance to preach at you Tad...
How does my reading what you've written get the attention I obviously crave? Isn't that much more likely to get you the attention you obviously crave?...and I have the feeling that you will read this since you obviously crave attention.
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=992Your message would be would so much more digestible if what you typed did not include attacks on people calling them idiots and murderers (even if it's true).
It didn't work. And I missed so many really wonderful opportunities to include attacks on people calling them idiots and murderers. But, what the hell, I can still go back, dig up old threads, put things right.Warren Narron - 2012/03/06 02:26:04 UTC
Tad, used to post about as nice as anyone, and nicer than some. Remember?
Blowback... You put in a thousand plus hour$, tooling, te$ting and documenting safety issues for the masses and have it ignored and suppressed by people, for whatever reason, and you would get testy too.
You're fairly snarky as it is, and you haven't done the work...
And the higher and more solid that wall is the more, bigger, and better toldyasos...Doing so automatically puts up a wall of resistance to what you have to offer.
...I get out of the deal. Time is totally on my side. The shit WILL happen and all I gotta do is wait and watch the videos.And you may be correct about the footnote... but today's footnotes are now hyperlinks...
There is a good chance that from now on, for every incident and fatality caused by insufficient weaklinks or sub-standard release mechanisms, a hyperlink trail will lead back to Tadtriedtowarnyou.com ... where all the evidence can be found.
A further link could then go to a list of all the people and the role they played in the suppression of those safety issues...
Who would like to be on that list?
How many are already on it?
Mind getting in line behind Brad Barkley?Allow me to be your writing coach here.
He was there first and is a professional fiction writer.Brad Barkley - 2014/10/01 14:22:24 UTC
I am assuming that Tad's defenders here have never actually spent any time reading his posts. They are interesting, in the sense that it's kind of like getting a look inside the mind of the Unabomber.
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1186You have so much knowledge about towing and it is obvious that you are so much more intelligent than I am.
After I started getting in deep trouble in my senior year of high school I took the physics book home and REALLY waded through it.Bill Cummings - 2013/02/19 02:43:00 UTC
No one should confuse me with someone that has been exposed to higher education. I avoided that style of incarceration like the plague.
I think I've already done that. I've gotten banned damn near everywhere (still working on the TUGS forum) and gotten the word out.Do something about getting banned everywhere and get the word out.
When you've been to two towing funerals in the same season it helps a lot with retention.You are truly an Encyclopedia about towing.
No prob. Easy. They're doing to him...Thanks again for your understanding about Bob K's situation.
...what he's doing to me.Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/13 05:55:39 UTC
This has not been easy or fun. This has been a sad realization for me that some people are so pathological that they cannot interact reasonably with others. That's why so many societies have jails (or death penalties). At some point, they've realized that the costs of interacting with pathological people is too high to be paid. We're reaching that point.
OK Bill, thanks. Now how 'bout treating Zack C...Consider me a friend Tad, Bill C.
... like a friend? I worked my ass off to deprogram him...Bill Cummings - 2013/02/15 19:59:49 UTC
ZC, You're right! I'm wrong! Your mind is made up! Good luck with your strong weak links! LATERS!
