http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1690
US Hawks Board of Directors Testing in 2015
Warren Narron - 2015/01/13 03:18:41 UTC
Tad is an inspiration in tenacity. He takes a lickin and keeps on tickin.
Not all that well. Never dreamt I'd be doing anything like this when I started out in the sport.
He's also right on just about everything hang gliding.
And for you to make that statement you'd also hafta understand just about everything I do just about as well as I do. There's not that much to it.
I can't remember so much the kickback for his language at the time and that wasn't the stated reason for banning, was it?
Try not to press Bob too much on that issue. He tends to get really confused about what his justification was.
I do want to address this but my typing finger is getting a blister.
Have you tried using any or all of the other nine digits?
Bob Kuczewski - 2015/01/13 03:34:08 UTC
Tad knows a lot about towing...
So does a ten year old kid with a kite - who hasn't had his brain turned to mush by all the bullshit one gets fed in hang gliding.
...but I don't think...
Stop there.
...he knows everything about foot launching.
1. That's OK, Bob. You don't know enough about hang gliding to understand that knowing that a person who's foot launching may be going up on a rope or off a slope without a rope.
2. Fuck you, Bob. I started out as a goddam dune instructor and scored my four damn near entirely on dune, hill, ridge launched airtime.
There was a topic where he insisted (over and over and over) that the US Hawks needed to mandate that everyone check their hook in with a "lift and tug" prior to launch.
Quote me, motherfucker. You're LYING. What I insisted (over and over and over) was that the USHGA hook in check regulation:
With each flight, demonstrates a method of establishing that the pilot is hooked in just prior to launch.
- as defined in the 1981/05 issue of the magazine - be taught, practiced, and enforced.
That works fine in benign conditions, but it's a recipe for disaster when the winds are howling and you're doing all you can to maintain control of the glider on launch.
Yeah, ya gotta watch out for that turbulent jet stream just above the wing. Lemme tell ya sumpin', asshole. Standing on launch when the winds are howling and you're doing all you can to maintain control of the glider on launch is a recipe for disaster. That's why NOBODY DOES IT. There are NO VIDEOS of ANYONE doing it. Even in hang gliding nobody's that STUPID.
When the wind's HOWLING people don't fly. And if they're flying already and the wind starts howling the outcomes tend not to be good. Think Tim Martin - 2011/06/05, Henson.
When the wind is STRONG sane people use...
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...CREWS. And when people have CREWS the glider can easily be flown in place with the pilot fully airborne along with it.
That's not the kind of situation where one can let the glider "float up to feel the gentle tug of the hang strap on the harness" just to verify that you're hooked in.
Wow! I never thought of that, before! And we've got fourteen years worth of magazines floating around when USHGA Accident Review Committee Chairman Doug Hildreth pushing this insanity. What if somebody reads something in the archives and dies as a consequence. We need to get something in the SOPs to make sure that people are aware of this issue.
With each flight, demonstrates a method of establishing that the pilot is hooked in just prior to launch.*
* Caution: The Accident Review Committee Chairman has determined that this check may cause death or severe injury when the wind is howling and recommends omitting it under such circumstances 'cause, anyway, what are the odds that you'll be unhooked AND launching in howling winds?
In those conditions, you verify your hook-in status while your crew (of three or more) holds down the glider moments before launch.
1. Define "MOMENTS" - motherfucker.
2. Oh yeah? Show me a video of this being done somewhere.
Tad would not accept that there might be conditions where his absolute "lift and tug" was unsafe.
That's 'cause Tad's been on ramps in all conditions from zero through crew unable to hold the glider down during a surge (resulting in a mandatory launch) to needing to back off and scrub.
So he went on and on and on about it, and he would never concede that his "black and white" rule might possibly be flawed.
It's not MY black and white rule, dickhead. It's USHGA's. And NOBODY - 'specially YOU - at any time in its near 34 year history has ever recommended rescinding it or amending it with an advisory.
I can't remember so much the kickback for his language at the time and that wasn't the stated reason for banning, was it?
I actually called Tad on the phone many many times to discuss the language issue with him. It didn't help.
No shit? Really?
I would like the US Hawks to be a bit more civilized...
Yeah, and The Bob Show is entirely about what YOU want and what YOUR definition of civilized is.
...than Tad was willing to comply with.
So you don't really mean or believe:
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/faq.php
Frequently Asked Questions
One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.
You wanna be the one telling people what they can and can't say.
But you're right ... that was not the reason for his banning.
And be really careful not to say what it was.
If the US Hawks Board...
WHAT "US Hawks Board"? Three people - one of whom is you - who put their names on a list, no elections, zero power to effect decisions.
...would like to revisit the matter, I'd be fine with that.
1. But if you didn't like the decision your fake board came up with you'd veto it in a New York minute - just like you've already told us you will.
2. How you think our honorable member from SouthWest Texas...
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=883
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
Sam Kellner - 2012/03/14 23:29:09 UTC
Joe, do you have a plan?
I hope it's something more substantial than worrying about hurting the feelings of Chester the molester.
...will vote?
Then the decision will be on them and not me.
Fuck you. They're advisory. The responsibility would be entirely on you until they're empowered to control your fake association. You can't have it both ways.
I made my best decision on the information I had...
Really? So how come you said:
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=883
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
Bob Kuczewski - 2012/03/14 15:15:03 UTC
I am not convinced that I did the best thing...
What new evidence has bolstered your confidence in the wisdom of your decision in the near three years since that statement? Cite one thing.
...and I believe to this day that it was the right decision.
Oh. It's your BELIEF. Like THIS:
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1563
Platform Launching (PL) Draft suggestions needed
Bob Kuczewski - 2014/06/06 17:50:48 UTC
total bullshit illustrates your BELIEFS about the relationship between "Weak Link Strength" and "Resulting Injuries". While out in the REAL world...
Dr. Trisa Tilletti - 2012/06
You and I have flown sailplanes for almost as long as we have flown hang gliders. We own two sailplanes and have two airplanes that we use for towing full-size sailplanes. In all the time that we have flown and towed sailplanes, we have not experienced or even seen a sailplane weak link break.
...sailplanes have ALWAYS used weak links which are, for all intents and purposes, infinitely strong and hang gliders have finally started following suit and using weak links that are highly unlikely to break when they're supposed to. (Anybody yet heard of the new two hundred that many of us are happy with actually functioning?)
Ya know sumpin', motherfucker? Under the laws in this country consistent with the protections of the US Constitution individuals aren't deprived of their lives, liberties, freedoms of speech and association based upon the BELIEFS of dictatorial assholes with pathological messianic issues.
And I'd actually be majorly disappointed and depressed if it WEREN'T your BELIEF to this day that you made the right decision.
Take your time and let it heal. There's no rush. As I've mentioned before, I think Tad is very happy with his own forum...
MY own forum? I don't consider Kite Strings to be MY own forum. I consider this to be a platform for the expression of scientifically valid ideas in which the individuals with the best ones own the forum at any given moment. I'd still be sitting on a lot of mistakes, misconceptions, inaccuracies - at least one of them potentially lethal - were that not the case.
...and that's as it should be.
If Tad were REALLY happy with Kite Strings and its accomplishments the forum would be pretty much a mothballed archive.
We don't censor references to Tad's work...
1. "WE" don't have the ability to censor Tad's work. Only Bob does.
2. And allow me to refresh your memory with respect to what half of the Fake Board members who aren't you would do at the earliest possible opportunity:
http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=883
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
Sam Kellner - 2012/03/14 02:38:17 UTC
Yet here it is in the Building the Hawks forum. I totally agree, deleat all of his garbage and reference.
Personally, I can get along just fine without that part of the forum. Actually, I am hoping I don't regret linking any thing to this forum with the continual dredging up.
Additionally, I am not worried about any threat of having someone say "told you so". He had nothing better to offer. Only a obsession to waste/dominate other's attention.
Please, let's move on. Bob, if this is going to continue, please let me know.
Thank You,
Sam
Explain to me how that stupid pigfucker isn't a major threat to the stated principles and values of The Bob Show and I am. I don't tolerate crap like that over here and I don't think you'll find many Kite Strings members at odds with my position - and the stated rules.
...and you're welcome to quote anything of his that you believe is a good idea.
And, of course, you're always more than welcome to misrepresent what's been quoted, pull a load of pseudoscientific crap out of your ass to sabotage it, or, if that path isn't a great option, ignore the post and let things wither.
Yeah, I don't even read all of those long winded "explanations". 
