The Bob Show

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1629
Jailed for taking pictures at Torrey

Scott C. Wise - 2015/01/17 15:43:05 UTC

This isn't going to turn into the Trial of The Century is it?

Bob Kuczewski - 2015/01/19 21:33:28 UTC

It already is the Trial of The Century ... for me!!!

Tomorrow (January 20th, 2015 at 1:30pm) will be the 4th day of the trial, and the "prosecution" or "plaintiff" is still presenting their case. They had appealed to the judge to "mix and match" between two sections of the law (one for civil harassment restraining orders and the other for workplace violence restraining orders). The two laws are almost identical and repeat about 90% of the exact same content. This makes them independent (it's not as if one of them refers to the other as a "baseline"). So their differences should be uniquely applied to each section. Robin Marien filed a workplace violence restraining order, but his lawyer was trying to argue to have some aspects of the other section applied. I'm not guilty of either section anyway, but the judge ruled (correctly in my opinion) that they needed to prove what was in the section that they filed.

So the case goes on. It's been 3 days already and Robin Marien's lawyer says he still has more witnesses to call. It seems to me that they're trying to accomplish 2 things: (1) bury me with legal costs, and (2) wear down our witnesses to keep them from being there to testify.

I have to admit that both strategies may be having some success. My lawyer has (fairly) asked for more money, and a number of witnesses have (fairly) stated that they can't just keep coming to court day after day. Robin, on the other hand, has made millions of dollars from his free lease at Torrey, and many of the people he brings to testify are his own employees - who don't have to ask their boss for time off ... day after day after day.

Despite all that, I am hopeful that justice will prevail.

Me too. Or failing that, we can hope for a really ugly backlash to do some significant damage to USHGA.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/airasia-flight-8501-crash-indonesian-divers-denied-access-to-cockpit-as-more-bodies-recovered-from-near-fuselage-of-jet-9994581.html
AirAsia QZ8501: Black box reveals warning alarms 'screamed'

Loulla-Mae Eleftheriou-Smith - 2015/01/22

Speaking to AFP, a crash investigator who wished to remain anonymous said that recordings from the black box in the plane's cockpit revealed several alarms were "screaming" at the time the pilots were trying to "recover" and stabilise the plane, including an alarm that indicated the aircraft was stalling.



An excessively rapid ascent is likely to cause an airplane to go into an aerodynamic stall. In 2009, an Air France Airbus A330 disappeared over the Atlantic Ocean in bad weather while flying from Rio de Janeiro to Paris. Investigators determined from the jet's black boxes that it began a steep climb and then went into a stall from which the pilots were unable to recover.

If only these pilots had understood how completely harmless stalls are.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1563
Platform Launching (PL) Draft suggestions needed

Bob Kuczewski - 2014/06/06 17:21:51 UTC

I also like that this discussion emphasizes that breaking a weak link is something that can be practiced - just like we practice stalls - so we understand how to handle them and to not be afraid of them. I had a terrifying stall experience with my instructor when I was learning to fly airplanes back in the 70s. For a long time I feared getting close to stall. As long as I feared stalls, I was not spending much time getting comfortable with them, and that didn't make me a better pilot. So there's a lot to be said for safely learning to handle the inevitable rather than trying to come up with some way to avoid the inevitable.

Nice job Bill !!!!

Certainly doesn't speak very well for their training.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1616
Poetic Justice

Bob Kuczewski - 2015/01/31 23:55:50 UTC

As Free has suggested, I've looked up the Terms of Service agreed to when people sign up with the US Hawks. These were essentially the "boiler plate" terms created automatically by the phpBB software when I created the forum back in August of 2010, and I haven't reviewed them since.

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In reviewing the posts that we've been discussing, it's clear that they violated the existing US Hawks Terms of Service. For that reason, the entire topic containing the violating posts has been temporarily removed from public view.

HAS BEEN "TEMORARILY" removed from public view? Don't you mean YOU removed them from public view? And what happens if you get hit by a truck this afternoon? Wouldn't that mean that you PERMANENTLY removed them from public view? What happens if I get hit by a truck this afternoon? Wouldn't they have been permanently removed from MY view?

If we decide to follow those terms of service, then I suspect that we'll be removing a lot of additional information from this forum (I believe, for example, that many of Tad's posts are in clear violation).

Oh. YOU BELIEVE that many of Tad's posts are in CLEAR violation. You believe that many of Tad's posts MAY violate US or International Law. Quote some. Tell me which ones subject me to a raid by the FBI and/or Interpol. Fuckin' asshole.

We can also decide to change our own Terms of Service to make them fit what we want the US Hawks to be.

"WE" can't decide shit, Bob. You're still a dictatorship with the beginnings of a Fake Board of Directors.

That's an important discussion for the Board when it is formed. Until then, if anyone sees a post that they feel is in violation of the Terms of Service, please flag it with the "Report" button. Thanks.

While the offending posts clearly violated our Terms of Service, it's not clear (at least to me) that they violated the Oregon law that wingspan33 quoted. I haven't read the entire law, but of the parts quoted, this section seems the most likely violation:

(B) Publicly insulting such other person by abusive words . . . in a manner intended and likely to provoke a violent response . . .

The violation is not clear because of the phrase "in a manner intended and likely to provoke a violent response". That section uses the word "and" which means that the insults must be both intended and likely to provoke a violent response. The reliance on intention seems to make that law difficult to apply. I doubt that whoever made those posts was looking to provoke a violent response from Sara - especially without giving their real names. Were they intending for Sara to punch her computer? But this is clearly a gray area, and if anyone sees a post that they feel is in violation of any law, please flag it with the "Report" button. Thanks.

Finally, it's also not clear (again, to me) how the Oregon law relates to the first amendment of the U.S. Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There's a slippery slope when we attempt to regulate what people can and cannot say...

You were off that cliff before you started.

...and that's been my objection to just removing posts without some form of due process that includes thoughtful review and discussion. But the law is the law, and we must honor it.

1. Now only MUST *WE* HONOR it, *WE" must go way above and beyond the call of duty and make up special rules for people Bob doesn't like.

2. How 'bout Sam blasting away at Sharp-Shinned Hawks in clear, total, undeniable violation of US law and migratory bird treaties? Didn't see any of you assholes getting too bent out of shape about that.

The US Hawks Hang Gliding Association is intended to become an association of pilots who want to work together to build and enjoy a national hang gliding association of their own making.

Oh. So every single Bob Show member has to WANT to work together with every single other Bob Show member. If Warren doesn't wanna work with Peter Birren then - tough shit, Warren - he's out.

We will have to establish policies that fit what we want this association to be. That's our challenge and I welcome everyone who wants to participate.

Good freakin' luck. Goddam train wreck before it ever started rolling.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=881
Davis Straub; Idiot Statist, Endless Wars & Tyranny

Rick Masters - 2015/01/31 20:34:10 UTC

I've always admired his reporting.

I can't tell whether or not that's sarcasm but, knowing you as I do, you don't get any benefit of any doubt. Get fucked, Rick.

Rodger Hoyt - 2015/02/02 21:13:32 UTC

Why is Davis not on this forum?

Why would he be on Bob's dump?

Davis doesn't cave to commercial interests.

Davis IS the commercial interest.

If the new WW glider sucks, he says so.

1. Quote him saying the new WW glider sucks.
2. What's he say about the bent pin shit that he sells as towing equipment?

http://ozreport.com/goodies.php
Oz Report goodies

Oz Report's Useful Goodies

Pro tow Mini Barrel Release and 750 lb bridle, $40.

This release won't accidently open by hitting your base tube, if you connect it to your chest tabs. It is small and easily stored. If you can't store it during flight, it is the most aerodynamic one available. The bridle is thin and gets out of your way right away. Easily stored. Also creates less drag if you don't put it away. Much stronger than your weaklink. I change bridles about once a year after about fifty tows. I switch the ends after twenty five tows.

Davis doesn't cave to the massive paragliding industry wallet.

There are only so many massive industry wallets one can cave to in one lifetime.

Davis's OZ Report gave me a hang gliding news alternative to the USHPA propaganda when I boycotted the association.

Compare/Contrast Davis's OZ Report reporting and USHGA's propaganda on the Zack Marzec fatality.

Davis does have a HUGE political slant. His reporting is NOT inbiased. Nor does it have to be. The OZ Report is HIS blog.

He doesn't present it as HIS blog. He presents it as:

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10
Welcome to, and policies of, the Oz Report discussion group

...a serious forum for pilots who wish to write cogently and engage the intellect of others.

He is free to say black is white - or in the case of his global warming obsession, cold is hot.

Oh good. A nut job global warming denier to add to Bob's menagerie. Hey Bob, crunch that through your Navier-Stokes equations and tell us what you get.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=881
Davis Straub; Idiot Statist, Endless Wars & Tyranny

Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/03 08:55:01 UTC

Many people don't know it, but Davis "erases" people with whom he can't win an argument. I know because it happened to me.

I had asked Regional Director Candidate Bill Helliwell a couple of very reasonable questions about his stance on open voting by the USHPA Board of Directors. Davis removed my posts from the topic, banned me, and eventually deleted the questions I had asked. He didn't make an announcement that he was doing it. I was just silently ... gone. I also lost access to all of my personal messages that I had exchanged with other pilots on his forum.

So Davis won't come to this forum because too many of us ... know what he's done.

Many people don't know it...

Tons of people know it.

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=990
Interesting article involving Davis Straub

Everybody's who's paid the least bit of attention knows what a sociopathic piece o' shit Davis is - but hang gliding is a culture that tolerates that ilk just fine.

...but Davis "erases" people with whom he can't win an argument.

Whereas you just misrepresent people's posts, deliberately quote passages out of context, declare them to be subhuman and not entitled to responses and participation, lock them down in your Basement while you run experiments for about a month, and decide they present unacceptable risks to your people of varying ages.

I was just silently ... gone.

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=592
Linknife

Davis Straub - 2010/04/03 12:46:26 UTC

Tad is gone.

I also lost access to all of my personal messages that I had exchanged with other pilots on his forum.

And I have access to mine on The Bob Show? Even Steve doesn't have access to his and you didn't even ban him - you just created customized rules for his membership and participation.

You, on the other hand, DO have that access over here despite your nonstop flagrant and grotesque violations of the clearly stated Kite Strings rules and principles.

So Davis won't come to this forum because too many of us ... know what he's done.

Davis won't come to your dump 'cause it's of zero use to him. He wouldn't ever be on Kite Strings no matter how much he wanted to 'cause lying sociopaths need not apply here. He goes to The Jack Show to defend himself 'cause it's too big to ignore and Jack has a soft spot in his heart for fellow lying sociopaths.

So no comment on the global warming denial bullshit? You're deeply concerned about people of varying ages but not what catastrophic global climate destabilization is doing to them as we speak?

Just realized who "Rodger" is... Rodger, Oregon, rabid global warming denier, Miraclepieco...

Rodger Hoyt - Oregon - 37302 - H5 - 1992/08/17 - Gene Matthews - FL TFL VA AWCL CL FSL RLF TUR XC

Just edited the previous post for more precise attribution. Sorry to have been so slow on the uptake.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1582
Rick Masters: Superiority of Hang Gliders

Scott C. Wise - 2015/01/27 20:17:02 UTC

John Cleese (of Monty Python fame) Video on Stupidity
I found this tidbit VERY informative! And in the last 10 seconds of the video, VERY funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU


I wonder if this analysis could also pertain to the pilots of inflatable canopy soaring parachutes?

Nails Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney pretty well. Brain dead little parasitic fraud who posed as a genius, got thousands of assholes to believe he was a genius, then as a consequence of the success of his scam he started believing he was actually WAS a genius. Fuckin' feedback loop. It took us years of work and one really spectacular black and white pro toad fatality to remind him that he never was anything but a brain dead little parasitic fraud posing as a genius and get him to permanently shut the fuck up.

Rodger Hoyt - 2015/02/02 20:54:53 UTC

That was really funny, but would have been more accurate if, instead of Fox News, he'd said NPR.

But he DIDN'T say it. And if he had it wouldn't have been funny because it wouldn't have been accurate or made a dust particle's worth of sense. Comedy tends to work best when it's operating on a platform of truth and intelligence. (There aren't a whole lot of people in hang gliding who can make me laugh and most of the ones who can are here on Kite Strings.)

If there are any successful stupid pigfucker comedy individuals or shows on par with Tom Lehrer, George Carlin, Monty Python, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Tina Fey regularly using NPR as a punchline I sure haven't heard about them. Maybe you could clue me in.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=881
Davis Straub; Idiot Statist, Endless Wars & Tyranny

Warren Narron - 2015/02/03 16:30:59 UTC

Rodger Hoyt - 2015/02/02 21:13:32 UTC

Why is Davis not on this forum?

He's a coward, comes to mind..

Welcome back, Rodger!
Glad you stuck around!

Davis doesn't cave to commercial interests. If the new WW glider sucks, he says so.

I've never seen that happen.

And never will. Not that there are any sucky gliders being produced anywhere nowadays - the designs have all been maxed out and now we're just making performance, handling, weight, cost tradeoffs.

Davis doesn't cave to the massive paragliding industry wallet.

I'm betting the massive paragliding industry wallet has never tested your theory.

It's not his theory. It's his statement of fact.

Davis's OZ Report gave me a hang gliding news alternative to the USHPA propaganda when I boycotted the association.

A low bar of accomplishment.

Extremely.

Davis does have a HUGE political slant. His reporting is NOT inbiased. Nor does it have to be. The OZ Report is HIS blog.
The Oz Report is a commercial money making publication. That pushes the needle to the right of a blog.
Davis Straub, calls himself a "journalist" but can't be bothered with all those pesky journalistic integrity rules.
Davis is politically slanted, he is not unbiased and Davis is dishonest when he calls himself a journalist.

Did you notice that this thread was over 3 years old and revived from page 11, thanks to Bob?
The original title was Davis Straub, Idiot Savant.. but I thought that gave him too much credit.
Davis Straub is a New York Times mockingbird statist. Davis really has a thing for idiot Paul Krugman.
Davis likes to use the term "idiot" a lot when he is unable to win intellectual debate. Hence the title change from 'savant'.

Davis Straub is an elitist that would sell his soul (if he still had one) to the massive paragliding industry wallet, if only they offered.

He is free to say black is white - or in the case of his global warming obsession, cold is hot.

As are we ALL are supposed to be able to do.
The sad truth, controlling sociopathic socialists like Davis Straub, are now suggesting 'imprisonment, re-education and even death' for those that don't care for global enslavement to CO2 czar trillion-airs.

Pay billions to Al Gore and he will promise you that Denver Colorado will not be under sea water in 500 years. Good deal!
I'm almost certain that Davis Straub, is an atheist, but the scientific sell out and demonization of CO2 is a religion to him.
As it is to almost everyone else that 'believes' it.

Believers:
Davis Straub
Tad Eareckson
Rick Masters

1. Why'd you sandwich me between those two assholes? Alphabetically I should've been first by last name or last by first name. I'm quite sure that neither of them wants to be associated with me any more than I want to be associated with them.

2. At least my "religion" can be measured in parts per million and percentages and predictions - none of them good - can be made with reasonable degrees of accuracy.

3. Don't recall getting a response to:

http://www.kitestrings.org/post2410.html#p2410
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Edit - 2015/02/06 01:40:00 UTC

Originally had the link incorrectly formatted such that clicking on it brought up an error message. Plus it was the wrong post number (2403 versus 2410) so when I did a fix one ended up at the wrong place anyway.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=881
Davis Straub; Idiot Statist, Endless Wars & Tyranny

Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/03 19:07:24 UTC

I generally don't like to get into political discussions here because whatever my opinion is, it's bound to alienate someone.

Oh. So global warming is a POLITICAL discussion, all about OPINIONS? Just like...

Hang Gliding - 2012/06

Dr. Trisa Tilletti 1

Unlike the FAA's relatively clear-cut legal rules, the practical aspects of weak link technology and application are not so clear-cut. For some people, talking about weak links is more like talking about religion, politics, or global warming--they can get very emotional about it and have difficulty discussing it logically, rationally, or with civility.

Dr. Trisa Tilletti 2

So let's try to talk about it rationally, logically, and practically here.

...aerotow weak links?

We've got a small enough group as it is, so alienating people is not something we need to do.

Right, Bob. Thanks for yet again confirming that THIS:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/faq.php
Frequently Asked Questions

What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
You will ... hopefully. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Everyone has to do their part once in a while. If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out. One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.

is total bullshit.

Having said that, I'd like to offer my opinion...

Oh good... *YOUR* OPINION. I can hardly wait. Hope it's a fraction as good as your opinions on hook-in checks, weak link strengths, and stalls. And here I was all afraid that you'd get started with your Navier-Stokes equations.

...in the hopes that it might show that both sides of the global warming debate are correct to some degree.

And next week you can show that both sides of the creation/evolution debate are correct to some degree.

First off, we all...

...outside of Quest; Wallaby; Florida Ridge; Lockout; Ridgely; Cloud 9; Cowboy Up; Grebloville; the Jack, Davis, Bob, Peter Shows...

...know that burning fossil fuel emits carbon dioxide. And we all know that most of the fossil fuel that we're burning comes from the ground and would not likely be burning without human intervention.

Give us some examples of where that DOESN'T apply. Try to limit their absurdity as much as possible.

So there's no doubt that we're putting more carbon dioxide into the air than was there just before mankind learned to play with fire.

Mankind learned how to play with fire hundreds of thousands of years ago but we were burning renewable sticks so our effect on the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere was essentially ZERO. We didn't start digging up and burning fossil fuels on any scale until the start of the Industrial Revolution a couple hundred or so years ago.

But that doesn't mean that we're putting more carbon dioxide into the air than was ever there before. After all, where do we get the fossil fuels to burn? Don't they come from fossils? So prior to the fossilization process, wasn't all that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere anyway?

Yeah, let's go with that line of "THINKING". 2.4 billion years ago before the cyanobacteria got photosynthesis figured out there was zilch in the way of atmospheric oxygen. So it should be no big fuckin' deal if we all just breathe nitrogen for a couple billion years until that gets worked out again.

My main point is that our atmosphere is like a down tube (I'll bet you didn't see that coming).

Nah, I was thinking you'd go with barrel release pin.

A downtube can suffer two kinds of deformation: elastic and inelastic. An elastic deformation is a minor flexing that leaves the tube unaffected when you remove the force.

However, if this flexing occurs as a result of compression load in flight your best outcome becomes floating down under silk.

In other words, it bounces back to its original condition. An inelastic deformation is a major flexing that causes permanent damage to the metal (including breakage). A down tube won't bounce back from an inelastic deformation. In some cases it can be forced back, but that's yet another inelastic deformation and each of them further weakens the metal.

So the real question about global warming isn't so much whether we're bending the down tube - we know we're bending it. The question is whether we're bending it to the point of breaking.

How's our atmospheric CO2 level gonna bounce back to it's original condition when we take the stress off? If we stop burning coal, oil, natural gas this afternoon where's the excess CO2 we've already released gonna go?

It's hard for me to know if that's the case except to point to the likelihood that most (if not all) of the carbon dioxide we're putting into the atmosphere comes from previously living matter that had likely gotten it from the atmosphere. If that's the case (please let me know if it's not), then until we literally run out of things to burn, we're likely still in the elastic range of that system (since our current state came from that prior state).

And then all we gotta do is watch a few "Friends" reruns while we're waiting for the hundreds of millions of years to elapse to get all that nasty CO2 fossilized. Total fucking idiocy.

There, now both sides can flee the US Hawks because I've demonstrated that I both believe that we're experiencing global warming (a clearly flaming leftist) and I'm simultaneously in denial of its consequences (an obvious right-wing neocon).

Two plus two equals eight and two plus two equals zero. On the average EVERYBODY's right and happy.

And meanwhile, out in the REAL world, climate destabilization is spinning out of control, icecaps and glaciers are melting, positive feedback loops are kicking in, oceans are rising and being acidified, coral reefs are dying and dissolving, agriculture is being disrupted, we're experiencing a mass extinction event, and people are starving and watching their island and coastal homes disappearing under the waves. But don't worry, folks. This downtube could be just fine and spring right back to where it's supposed to be in a half a billion years or so.

Bob Kuczewski - 2012/01/16 21:34:14 UTC

Look Tad,

My offer still stands. I suggest that we back down from trying to destroy each other and move on with trying to improve the sport of hang gliding. There are many ways we can work together to benefit the sport. Neither of us will get everything that we want from that arrangement, but we'll each get more than we're getting now.

As far as returning you to the US Hawks forum, I don't see that happening as long as you remain an unrepentant child molester. That's both a moral and legal judgement on my part and I take sole responsibility for that decision. When the US Hawks has a functioning Board of Directors, you're welcome to appeal that decision with them, but I don't see me changing my mind. If you want to "go to war" with me over that non-hang-gliding issue, then that's your call. I tend to fire back when fired upon, and I don't want to hear any complaining if things get personal in those exchanges. Again, you get to make the decisions. I'm just letting you know what lies ahead down both of those paths.

The olive branch is extended. I hope you'll accept it.

I'd feel so unclean if I hadn't been the target of one of your bullshit trumped up justifications for hostile action. And you know EXACTLY what you can do with your olive branch.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=881
Davis Straub; Idiot Statist, Endless Wars & Tyranny

Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/04 18:53:20 UTC

Warren, as I've said to Tad, I think you have a lot to offer to this forum and to the sport of hang gliding.

Yeah Bob, you've been saying stuff like that for the better part of half a dozen years now. So name one item of the lotsa stuff that I have to offer - hook-in checks, Tad-O-Links, straight pin releases not within easy reach, wheel landings, SOPs revisions, compliance with existing USHGA SOPs and FAA safety regulations, gutting Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney, getting Sam out of circulation before he kills someone - that you haven't sabotaged.

[Tad Eareckson]

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=881
Davis Straub; Idiot Statist, Endless Wars & Tyranny

Warren Narron - 2015/02/05 18:13:33 UTC

Tad: Uncensored

Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/04 18:53:20 UTC

Warren, as I've said to Tad, I think you have a lot to offer to this forum and to the sport of hang gliding.

http://www.kitestrings.org/topic33-460.html#p7375

Tad Eareckson - 2015/02/05 17:52:07 UTC

Yeah Bob, you've been saying stuff like that for the better part of half a dozen years now. So name one item of the lotsa stuff that I have to offer - hook-in checks, Tad-O-Links, straight pin releases not within easy reach, wheel landings, SOPs revisions, compliance with existing USHGA SOPs and FAA safety regulations, gutting Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney, getting Sam out of circulation before he kills someone - that you haven't sabotaged.

Bob Kuczewski - 2015/02/06 03:59:16 UTC

Warren, you may have missed the most important parts of my post:

Warren, as I've said to Tad, I think you have a lot to offer to this forum and to the sport of hang gliding. But you are letting your fears get the best of you and it is alienating good people who might otherwise agree with you. Please give that some thought because I'd really like to see you participating in a healthy way on this forum.

Tad was (and still is) motivated by hate.

You make it sound like that's a BAD thing.

Tad is out to get everyone he thinks has ever slighted him in his life.

Thanks for making that point, Bob...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=756
Discussion with Tad about Towing / Foot Launch

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/08/14 16:22:39 UTC

As I said before, you seem more interested in righting some perceived past slights against you (by almost everyone) than in actually building a new and better hang gliding organization.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=756
Discussion with Tad about Towing / Foot Launch

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/08/21 02:47:44 UTC

But instead, you just want to snipe at Sam because you feel he disrespected you at some point in the dim dark past because he said he didn't want to read your long posts. Well, guess what? I don't like reading your long posts either. They're full of foul language and death wishes aimed at everyone who you feel has ever slighted you.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=607
Understanding Tow Releases

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/09/18 17:32:44 UTC

Take your attitude toward Sam as a good example. I believe you've completely misjudged him and you've allowed yourself to go off on a tangent "jihad" against Sam for no good reason. I believe you've done so because you felt some personal slight to your ego, and you can't let it go.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=818
Peter (Link Knife) Birren

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/11/18 07:13:55 UTC

I assert that you do this because you've felt slighted in some way or another (maybe with a remark, or maybe by someone not hailing you as the savior of towing, or maybe just by someone not hanging on every word you write).

http://www.kitestrings.org/post979.html#p979
You are NEVER hooked in.

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/11/19 21:01:28 UTC

I predict that you won't do that because you've never been interested in building a better organization or in saving people's lives. Instead, you're just interested in beating up on the people you feel have slighted you.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=884
The Bob Show

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/13 05:55:39 UTC

You're more focussed on slamming anyone who you feel has slighted you or disrespected you.

We're all much too slow to have gotten it the first half dozen times.

And now let's take a look at the "disrespected" spam...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=756
Discussion with Tad about Towing / Foot Launch

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/08/10 03:58:07 UTC

Actually, I think you're just trying to even the scores on anyone who has "disrespected" you in the past.

http://www.kitestrings.org/post653.html#p653
Do Tad's words dilute his message?

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/08/10 05:52:32 UTC

I've been reading his posts both here and on ushawks.org, and it seems to me that Tad is trying to do two things. He's trying to describe safe towing, but he's also trying to slam anyone who's ever disrespected him in the past. It's as if he's trying to even some score somewhere.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=756
Discussion with Tad about Towing / Foot Launch

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/08/10 06:48:08 UTC

From what I can tell, you just want to slam anyone who you feel is "disrespectful" to you.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=756
Discussion with Tad about Towing / Foot Launch

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/08/21 02:47:44 UTC

But instead, you just want to snipe at Sam because you feel he disrespected you at some point in the dim dark past because he said he didn't want to read your long posts.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=802
AL's Second flight at Packsaddle how it went

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/10/18 20:15:25 UTC

This may be evidence that you've got another agenda, because even when you get exactly what you want ... you're still unhappy about it. Maybe you're using "safety" as a facade for your hidden agenda to blast everyone in the sport. Do you feel you've been so badly disrespected that you have to tear everyone down ... all the time?

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=805
Aerotowing Guidelines

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/10/28 03:38:21 UTC

All you can see are the people who you feel have disrespected you, and all you want to do is seek vengeance.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=805
Aerotowing Guidelines

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/10/30 15:22:19 UTC

I don't believe there are any icons built in to this forum that would be banned on broadcast television. I also don't think any of them are particularly offensive. But your own hyper-sensitivity to being disrespected magnifies their power beyond being little smilies into something that drives you to "go to war" over them.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=821
Fatal hang gliding accident

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/11/15 02:32:24 UTC

Ooops. There's one more thing to know about Tad. If he ever feels you've disrespected him, he'll take pot shots at you and snipe at you whenever he can for the rest of his life. He'll be forever unable to recognize anything good that you might do because the only thing he remembers is how he thinks you've disrespected him. And I say that as someone who appreciates a lot of what he does and writes. But his paper-thin ego is his Achilles heel.

http://www.kitestrings.org/post%20979.html#p979
You are NEVER hooked in.

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/11/19 21:01:28 UTC

Tad claims he wants to be very exact about this sport, but then he makes ridiculous statements like "EVERYBODY" does this or that. That might not make much difference to you, but how do you think all the instructors feel who ARE doing it right? Does Tad ever think about them when he paints with his sweeping broad brush? No. The only thing Tad really thinks about is how he can seek revenge on everyone who's disrespected him. He's using your safety as an excuse to commit his jihad against everyone else.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=821
Fatal hang gliding accident

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/11/20 16:07:52 UTC

This points out why I struggle with Tad. He really has a lot of good knowledge about this sport, and he's a potentially fantastic asset to any organization. But when he's on the wrong side of an issue he becomes worse than useless because he's so convinced that he's right. I believe this is compounded by self-esteem issues with regard to people who he feels have disrespected him. So I don't really know how to handle the situation.

http://www.kitestrings.org/post%201271.html#p1271
The Bob Show

Bob Kuczewski - 2012/01/19 19:46:52 UTC

I suspect that your inability to actually read what people have written is combining with your hatred for anyone who you feel has disrespected you.

A dozen of those plus this "slighted"/"disrespected" twofer:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=884
The Bob Show

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/12/13 05:55:39 UTC

You're more focussed on slamming anyone who you feel has slighted you or disrespected you.

Couple points...

- You seem to be the ONLY individual ragging on about the slighted/disrespected thing about me or anybody else.

- Slights and disrespect are big fucking deals. Just about all forums make statements about respectful discourse as a core rule and people out in the real world fight to the death all the time over such issues. People WORTHY of respect take take attacks on it very seriously. When you get LEGITIMATE attacks you ignore them 'cause you know you're a Ponzi schemer and don't want to draw extra attention to the fact.

Read his forum and you'll see his hatred seeping onto almost every page.

Oh, so you've read every page of Kite Strings. 7333 - seven and a third thousand - posts with this one. But...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=802
AL's Second flight at Packsaddle how it went

Bob Kuczewski - 2011/10/23 16:29:29 UTC

As for Nobody's request for me to read a document...

http://energykitesystems.net/Lift/hgh/TadEareckson/ATGuidelines.pdf

...I haven't found the time yet. I'm sorry, but I don't have time to read everything that everyone asks me to read.

...you've never had time to give a twelve page document - with tons of white space in it - a cursory skim.

You're a pathological liar, Bob. Keep putting stuff in print - the way Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney did. He eventually choked to death on all the inconsistencies and contradictions.

The great thing about having multiple hang gliding forums is that people can find the kinds of people they want to hang out with.

Why would anyone want to hang with me...

http://www.kitestrings.org/topic25.html
Thanks Tad !

...if I'm motivated by hate?

We're making a sincere effort on this forum to build a national hang gliding association for people who love the sport and want to be treated fairly and decently.

1. If only Linus van Pelt had the degree of sincerity that "we" do. It would have been a no brainer that The Great Pumpkin would've hit his patch that night.

2. Yeah...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1690
US Hawks Board of Directors Testing in 2015

Bob Kuczewski - 2015/01/08 09:20:41 UTC

I'd like to propose that we form a Board and we have the Board work together for most of 2015 making decisions. But those decisions will only be advisory. I will still reserve the right to over-rule those decisions based on what I believe is best for the US Hawks.

Right.

3. How the fuck do you know who's making a sincere effort on that forum to build a national hang gliding association for people who love the sport and want to be treated fairly and decently? Peter Linknife Birren is a member of that forum. How much of a sincere effort on that forum to build a national hang gliding association for people who love the sport and want to be treated fairly and decently is he making?

4. And Bob hasn't determined to present a danger to people of varying ages.

5. Does Zack C feel...

Zack C - 2011/12/17 14:56:03 UTC

I don't know whether you were genuinely doing what you felt was the right thing to do or just looking for convenient justification to finally can Tad, but I believe your actions were inappropriate and set a terrible precedent for your organization.

...that's what WE're doing?

6. Treated decently or fairly by whom, Bob? Give me a list of Bob Show members who have says in what gets said, who gets to say it, where people are permitted to post, what people are permitted to see, who they get to communicate with via personal message, who is entitled to know the real identities of all members.

7. Does everybody on your dump feel...

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=883
What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?

Bob Kuczewski - 2012/03/14 15:15:03 UTC

There will be many problems that crop up as the US Hawks grows. I think it's important that we - as a community - work together to handle them in the best way that we can. There are lots of things to learn from Tad's case. I am not convinced that I did the best thing...

...WE treated Tad fairly and decently? Isn't their some principle in US justice that the target be given the benefit of any reasonable degree of doubt or uncertainty?

If you'd like to join us, you're surely welcome.

He's been on your membership list since Day Five. Are you saying he hasn't joined? What criteria hasn't he met?

I really mean that.

So unless you qualify a statement with "I really mean that." we can assume that you're feeding us a load o' crap? So how do we know that when you qualify a statement with "I really mean that." that the qualification "I really mean that." isn't also a load o' crap? In my experience it ALWAYS is.

But if you just want to throw stones...

Oh, he doesn't get to throw stones. So this:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/faq.php
Frequently Asked Questions

What will keep the US Hawks from becoming another USHPA or HGAA?
You will ... hopefully. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Everyone has to do their part once in a while. If you see something that's not being done correctly, then it's your duty to speak out. One big difference between the US Hawks and other organizations is that the US Hawks really does honor the free speech of its members.

is a total load o' crap. Big surprise.

So you're gonna form this fantastic alternate national hang gliding association and nobody's gonna be throwing any stones anywhere 'cause everybody's gonna be on the exact same page with each other on everything which will be the exact same page as Lord Bob's. Yet another big surprise.

...then I'm sure Tad would welcome you with open arms.

He's been here, totally unrestricted, since 2011/03/31 20:10:40 UTC, the better part of four years and welcome to throw as many stones in as many directions as he wants - including at Yours Truly. A person doesn't hafta be right about everything and/or in perfect alignment with me - he just needs to be honest. That's why he's on welcome to post here - and you, along with Sam and OP - are not.

And yes, Bob, I - and, hopefully, we - DID notice that you did totally ignored the content of Warren's post in your evasive bullshit "response".