Crash on Launch
Mawtmk - 2018/10/31 00:50:26 UTC
Bad launch
Well put Ben.
I am a new pilot, I landed in the trees while scooter towing, I walked away with just a scratch . I wanted to quit but my instructor said, well lets try again. I'm glad I did.
My point is you have to get back on the hourse .
Yeah, doesn't get much better than that on The Davis Show.Well put Ben.
Then you're in the right place.I am a new pilot...
Undoubtedly due to the excellent instruction you were so obviously getting.I landed in the trees while scooter towing, I walked away with just a scratch .
Well let's hear it for your great instructor then. How come you're not naming him to help boost his reputation up where it belongs?I wanted to quit but my instructor said, well lets try again. I'm glad I did.
A hourse is a hourse, of corse, of corse...My point is you have to get back on the hourse .
Ben Reese - 2018/11/01 06:32:41 UTC
Thanks for the feed back Mawtmk.
I am trying not to be the one posting all the time but your comments are
important because towing is where most fatalities occur in HG.
Getting back on the horse is very important after you know your error and
how to correct it. But even though you are very good and prepared there
is a random factor in towing and a vulnerable point of the flight.
That spot is the 1st 200' on tow. Understand this and never launch when your
not ready. It is not a test of manhood to carry your glider off the runway.
If you start to lose control or lockout pull the release.
Then deal with your landing where ever it is going to be.
Your odds are better with a fully controlled glider than trying to save a tow below 200'.
That is how I have rehearsed it in my head so many times..
In PG the random turbulence below 200' is where most PG's get hurt.
PG's only option is pull a reserve but that is not helping at 200' or below.
HG can deal with that random turbulence better below 200' unless your on tow.
On tow below 200' your reserve is your tow release.
Want some more feed back for which to be thank full, ass hole? Check out some of mine.Thanks for the feed back Mawtmk.
...Davis finished exterminating all the folk with measurable degrees of intelligence, competency, literacy, integrity years ago so I'm pretty much all ya got.I am trying not to be the one posting all the time but...
- Yeah, lotsa scooter tows being flown into trees. Lucky this guy walked away with just a scratch....your comments are important because towing is where most fatalities occur in HG.
- Do we have any reason to believe that the means of getting airborne had the slightest bearing on the situation in which he ended up?
- IF most hang gliding fatalities are related to tow launches we need to start by taking into consideration the issue that there are thirty tow launches for every foot launched slope flight. Then we need to consider the fact that virtually all Western culture tow launches are conducted with total shit equipment at totally incompetent operations.
Hourse.Getting back on the horse...
In this case probably flying into the trees and correcting it by NOT flying into the trees. Just my best guesses though....is very important after you know your error and how to correct it.
Like when perfectly good and well inspected Standard Aerotow Weak Links randomly quickly increase the safety of the towing operation six times in a row in light morning conditions.But even though you are very good and prepared there is a random factor in towing and a vulnerable point of the flight.
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24846
Is this a joke ?
Maybe just random coincidence.Davis Straub - 2011/08/28 15:26:28 UTC
Then again, Russell Brown had us double up behind him after six breaks in a row at Zapata. We couldn't figure out why we had so many breaks so quickly. Maybe just coincidence.
Yeah. The first two hundred feet on tow is a SPOT. Very similar to the old Frisbee in the middle of the LZ. The middle of the old Frisbee in the middle of the LZ actually.That spot is the 1st 200' on tow.
Doesn't getting oneself ready just allow for more time and opportunity to fuck things up?Understand this and never launch when your not ready.
Yeah Ben. Another sentence that makes perfect sense.It is not a test of manhood to carry your glider off the runway.
...first determine whether you're losing control or locking out so you'll know how to write up the report accurately.If you start to lose control or lockout...
It's absolutely astounding the number of pilots out there unable to grasp this simple concept - and/or the barrels on the easily reachable bent pin release they're willing to put within a few inches of their hands....pull the release.
My guess...Then deal with your landing where ever it is going to be.
http://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7447/26578855104_69f4705474_o.jpg
At the end of that little orange line right underneath of where it says "Bohl(104)".
Yeah. Take a hint from Jeff's mistake. Airline and hot shot pro toad comp pilot. Tried to save the tow he screwed up by taking a hand off the bar for just a second to secure a dangling camera. Then he was too stupid to take it off again to return to full control and went on trying to save the tow below two hundred feet. And April Smackin' Mackin was also too stupid to just squeeze the lever and fix whatever was going on back there by giving him the rope until a millisecond after the Tad-O-Link fixed whatever was going on back there.Your odds are better with a fully controlled glider than trying to save a tow below 200'.
Works really well when you rehearse it in your head so many times, don't it Ben? Like when I went up to Alaska last summer I mentally rehearsed outrunning the charging Grizzly twenty times a day. Came back without a scratch. So try punching a hole in THAT logic - asshole.That is how I have rehearsed it in my head so many times..
Solution... Fly in more organized turbulence. Also avoid being below two hundred feet.In PG the random turbulence below 200' is where most PG's get hurt.
Oh PULLEASE... Paragliders are perfectly safe aircraft in random turbulence below two hundred feet. Ya just gotta know what you're doing.PG's only option is pull a reserve but that is not helping at 200' or below.
08-19
http://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5277/30076449505_1f6ed2f804_o.png
Everybody knows that.
So make sure it's within really easy reach and rehearse pulling it in your head many times. And always fly with a hook knife and use an appropriate weak link with a finished length of 1.5 inches or less - just in case. With that much redundancy it's really hard to go wrong.HG can deal with that random turbulence better below 200' unless your on tow.
On tow below 200' your reserve is your tow release.
And also stay on The Davis Show for your top notch opinions 'cause...
http://www.chgpa.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2871
speed link
...there's no civility, lotsa moderation, very highly qualified individuals lurking. The very highly qualified individuals lurking are very easy to identify 'cause they're the ones who never post anything. Too busy actually working on things.Jim Rooney - 2007/12/13 18:07:02 UTC
I bring up the Oz Forum cuz I seriously believe you fear peer review.
It's easy to rant and rave here on this group because most here are very civil and there's no moderation. Not so over at Oz. There are also very highly qualified individuals lurking there. I honestly think you're afraid.
But of course you'll have an excuse for not going there.
